[asterisk-biz] DID's in Vienna, Austria and Paris, France

[John van Oppen]

Germany does not dis-allow them for non citizens (at least as far as I
know).   You just have to have a location presence there.    I live part
of the time in Seattle, WA and part of the time in Berlin, DE and I had
no problem getting a DID they just needed proof of my berlin residence
to get me a berlin number.

In my case sipgate did it with a letter to the address which since I was
not there I had a friend, who has keys to my place to go pickup.    I
register to it with a SIP server in the US and then have my phones in
the Seattle and Berlin both connect back to that SIP server.   If you
can find something that says I am violating the law I would love to see
it (even if it is german).

I would imagine Austria has similar rules as its rules for telecom seem
to be pretty similar to german ones in general.   (same/equivalent
identity papers required to get cell phone contracts, etc)

Thanks,

John van Oppen
Spectrum Networks LLC
206.973.8302 (Direct)
206.973.8300 (main office)


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Trixter aka
Bret McDanel
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:56 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] DID's in Vienna, Austria and Paris, France

On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 13:42 -0500, asterisk-biz at kfife.mailworks.org
wrote:
> Can anyone make a recommendation for DID provider in Vienna, Austria
and
> Paris, France?  I know some countries (like Germany) disallow
> terrestrial DID's for non-citizens.  Ideally we would want something
> with lower monthly costs but with per-minute on inbound billing.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Most of Europe will not allow geographic DIDs to people outside the
country, due to local laws.  Some countries are more strict (Ireland for
example does not allow geographic DIDs if you do not live/work in the
area that DID serves).

It isnt a citizen thing, its a resident thing or at least a business
presence there.  There are also some that have "know your customer"
rules relating to telephone service (UK for example) so it becomes more
complex if you do not at least have a business presence in the given
country, and you are generally required to uphold the local law and only
give the DIDs to people who are entitled to them.

With that said, do you want just 1 or many?  Sipgate has AT DIDs free
(www.sipgate.at), although they do IP filtering to comply with local
law, so the https connection to their server must (as far as they know)
originate from an IP designated to that country to get a geographic one.
Their page is in german although the urls arent so if you hover over
links you can usually figure it out if you do not speak german, and if
you goto 'numbers' you will see they do not allow geographic without an
AT IP.  I do not know how many concurrent channels they allow.

I do not know if sipgate.fr is them, the server is IIS and it is broken.
I also do not know of a DID provider other than them that would have the
rate of "free".

Be warned if you are not legally entitled to the DID it can vanish at
any time.  Sipgate *only* checks when you select the DID and does not
appear to care that the SIP registration is for somewhere totally
different (or historically hasnt).

-- 
Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com     Bret McDanel
Belfast +44 28 9099 6461        US +1 516 687 5200
http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!


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