[asterisk-biz] ANI

[Steve Totaro]

Oh, I was speaking of inbound only LD (toll free) PRIs.  Maybe I am
way off topic for this thread.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Miles Scruggs <asterisk at wideideas.com> wrote:
> This belief is limited to your experience with PRIs.  When you obtain
> SIP termination services from ATT, Verizon, or Level 3.  They have no
> way of verifying what ANI/CID you are sending.  It doesn't matter if
> you are calling 800s or not, they bill it back to the CID that you
> pass (not to say that your carrier won't bill you as well since they
> see the calls go through their switches, but they more than likely
> won't see the reciprocal billing from the receiving LEC).  Want a
> proof of concept?  Setup an account with a small terminating provider
> like Junction networks, send all your calls out with the ANI of your
> cell phone. Last step will be to recoil in horror next time you open
> your cell phone bill. I'm not saying they can't track you down, or
> trace abuse back to you, since everything is logged, but very little
> verification happens.
>
> If you are sending thousands of calls per day to a trunk that is
> outbound only, from thousands of different parties, you don't have to
> delve into to much logic to see the obvious result.
>
> Cheer
>
> Miles
>
> On May 9, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
>> I may be wrong here but I do not believe that ANI can be spoofed.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_identification
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve Totaro
>>
>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:03 AM,  <nigel.dennis at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> Mike... The reason why collection services, skip tracers and private
>>> investigators ask to call back on their 800 toll free is simply
>>> because you
>>> can not spood your ANI to a 800 #.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <asterisk-biz at ics-il.net>
>>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>>> Discussion<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> To: <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] ANI
>>> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:29:48 -0500
>>>
>>> Is the CID of a call to a toll free number really the ANI,
>>> therefore not
>>> spoofed or blocked?
>>>
>>> Someone who's opinion I respect said it generally is, but he wasn't
>>> sure.
>>> Since I have a potential customer coming to me with an ANI
>>> requirement, not
>>> a CID requirement, I figured I should make sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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