[asterisk-biz] PulverMedia

Thu May 24 10:26:09 MST 2007

Good explanation...  Thanks...

It helps put the situation into a whole new light.

-- Nick

On Thu, 24 May 2007, Moshe Maeir wrote:

> First of all - journalists always a short list of people that they call
> when they need an opinion, reaction on something. Once you are on the
> list
> and are known, they will always call you. Why waste time with someone
> new?
> 
> But more than that, Jeff has spent the last 10 years doing 2 main things
> - building the VoIP industry as a community and developing relationships
> with the outside world.  In that aspect he has probably done more than
> anybody else.  Activities like the VON coalition, petitions to the FCC,
> founding FWD etc. have helped represent the VoIP industry in a positive
> way. His VON shows are the place to go to make deals in the VoIP space.
> 
> So is he the "end-all-be-all voip expert"  as you write - No. But he is
> the public face of the VoIP industry. Mark Spencer on the other hand
> revolutionized and popularized the use of open source telephony for
> PBXes. Is he VoIP only? No. Has he spent all the time and effort that
> Jeff has on building relationships and representing the industry - No. So
> while we owe a lot to Mark, he hasn't promoted the industry or himself as
> much, so the reporters don't call him
> n wrote:
> 
> I've always wondered...  what exactly did Jeff Pulver do to be awarded
> this God-like status in the tech media?  Don't get me wrong, I don't know
> him, or anything about him other than what I read online in the media...
> and I don't have any personal problem with him.  But I constantly see him
> quoted as the "end-all-be-all voip expert" that the reporters seem to bow
> down to and kiss his feet.  I know he's been in the industry for a long
> time, and he has done some important stuff (like FWD), but what did he do
> to earn such praise and high regard over everyone else?
> 
> Personally, I think Mark Spencer has done far more good for the
> advancement of VOIP and telephony projects by small companies than Jeff
> Pulver or anyone else for that matter, yet he gets maybe a fraction of the
> attention and admiration that Jeff does.
> 
> What exactly am I missing here?
> 
> It's not meant as a negative, just a "trying to understand".
> 
> -- Nick
> 
> 
> On Wed, 23 May 2007, Dean Collins wrote:
> 
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> 
> Jeff at Pulver.com  
> 
> Personally I don't think you have really tried all that hard - they've
> always been very responsive to my needs and I think they are a super
> company for the voip industry.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dean Collins
> Cognation Pty Ltd
> dean at cognation.net
> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 5:27 PM
> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia
> 
> Where to?
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
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> Totaro
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:22 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia
> 
> Send an email to Jeff.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:13 PM
> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia
> 
> If this crap continues, Pulver won't see a dime from me.
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael
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> Iedema
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:08 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia
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> doesn't get me anywhere.  For months I've been trying to
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> unsubscribe
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> an
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> old
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> address with a misspelled name from their mailings (seemingly only
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> VON
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> Europe sends me anything).
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> I'm going through exactly the same thing here...
> 
> If you do end up succeeding, please post back so I can do the same.
> 
> --Michael I.
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