[asterisk-biz] Better ITSP Bureau

Aleks Clark aleks.clark at gmail.com
Fri Jul 13 11:22:36 CDT 2007


Wiki is fine if all you want is a comparison table, but I think what's
called for is a real site with voting, staff reviews, and user reviews. Make
sure to get several viewpoints, etc. Also, that way you avoid the [citation
needed] buggers >.> And of course, everything would use ReCaptcha. Improve
the voip business, AND do intelligent OCR. Onward I say!

Aleks

On 7/13/07, Matthew Rubenstein <email at mattruby.com> wrote:
>
>         Actually, Wikipedia works pretty well, because its access is so
> open to
> so many people, and there is indeed a relatively trustworthy publisher
> which implements fairly content-neutral policies to prevent most common
> abuses. Smaller communities with the same model produce a much less
> accurate description of their subject, like the Conservopedia.
>
>         But this directory will suffer from all the worst flaws of those
> models. While representing itself as a tool in the critical path of the
> most fundamental voice network business decisions. Sounds like a
> trainwreck right in the station.
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:46 -0400, Charles Vance wrote:
> > tut tut. The community is trustworthy. Afterall, Wickopedia works
> > doesn't it?
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >         From: Matthew Rubenstein
> >         To: Al Bochter
> >         Cc: Asterisk -Biz
> >         Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:29 AM
> >         Subject: [asterisk-biz] Better ITSP Bureau (was: Re: Fed up
> >         with my ITSP)
> >
> >
> >         I can't wait to see this list's typical professionalism,
> >         dispassionate
> >         critiques, sense of proportion, fair play among competitors
> >         and aversion
> >         to mere gossip and personal attacks be published in a central
> >         database
> >         that the general public will use to do business with so many
> >         companies
> >         large and small.
> >
> >         I can't wait, because it doesn't exist.
> >
> >         Unless this directory has some kind of trust network, or other
> >         accountability (there is none other on the Internet), then it
> >         will be
> >         routinely abused to game it. It will be at best a waste of
> >         time, and at
> >         worst libel/slander
> >
> >
> >         On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:10 -0400, Al Bochter wrote:
> >         > To everyone on the list
> >         >
> >         > Please email me off the list any BAD ITSP, Voip Providers,
> >         And other
> >         > Voip things you had problems with.
> >         > Make SURE you provide details of what that problem you had.
> >         >
> >         > Let me know about the good ones too.
> >         >
> >         > I am going to start a list and post the details about the
> >         providers.
> >         > We need to give the good ones more business and bad ones
> >         less
> >         > VOIP is getting a bad name do to all this bull**** and we
> >         need to stop
> >         > it.
> >         >
> >         > I don't have a site name in mind but I will have this done
> >         A.S.A.P.
> >         > and I will post the URL to the list.
> >         > Best regards,
> >         >
> >         > Al Bochter
> >         > http://www.BochterServices.com
> >         >
> >         >
> >         ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >         > See what we are selling at auction
> >         > http://www.epier.com/auctions.asp?bochterservices
> >         >
> >         ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >         > Take a look at our online store
> >         > http://www.bochterservices.com/onlinestore/
> >         >
> >         ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > Elliot Otchet wrote:
> >         > > Here Here!
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > From:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >         > > [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf
> >         Of Dovid
> >         > > Bender
> >         > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:16 AM
> >         > > To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> >         > > Subject: [asterisk-biz] Fed up with my ITSP
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > Hi List,
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > I am fed up with one of the ITSP's. That I used to use (I
> >         don't use
> >         > > them any more but still have a few DID's by them). Back in
> >         the day
> >         > > they were good but now they seem to be down every so
> >         often. When you
> >         > > call tech support they say to please wait on hold and 2-3
> >         minutes
> >         > > later you hear a good bye and the phone call ends. Is
> >         there any site
> >         > > to rate ITSP's ? I think people should know for the future
> >         who is
> >         > > good and who is not. If there is no site I am willing to
> >         host it if
> >         > > some one wants to write the code.
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > Thanks.
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > Dovid
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >
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