[asterisk-biz] Re: OT: Gore Still Ahead

Xin Li xlitang at gmail.com
Thu Oct 5 09:34:13 MST 2006


Should we open another list here as asterisk_politics at lists.digium.com?

On 10/5/06, Jay R. Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:03:28AM -0400, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> >       Are you looking for ways to excuse the child molesting Foley did
> just
> > because he continued carrying on after the boys were legally men?
>
> Let's be *perfectly clear* here, shall we?
>
> "Talking dirty" to them does not constitute "child molestation" under
> any construction of anyone's law that I'm aware of.
>
> And 16 isn't exactly a child, either.
>
> >       What kind of depraved child molester protector are you? Other than
> > "Republican" - that much is so obvious that it's redundant. Now tell us
> > that I shouldn't go so hard on Foley, because it's not his fault that
> > god made him gay.
>
> You can go as hard on Foley as you like.  I hope he takes the whole,
> sordid, hypocritical Republican establishment down with him.  just lets
> be hard on him for the right reasons: he owed a duty to his
> constituency not to get embroiled in a scandal, and he owed a duty to
> those pages *specifically*, because he was or had been in a position of
> direct power and control over them.  He failed in those duties.
>
> Would this have been less likely to have happened had he been out about
> his preference?  (For men, I mean, not for boys.)  Yeah, probably.
>
> Is it society's fault that he felt he needed to be even partially in
> the closet?  Yes?
>
> Am *I* gay?  No.
>
> Do I want people to confuse me for Donald Rumsfeld?  Not even on your
> birthday.  :-)
>
> You can tell the repubs apart from the dems because, by and large, the
> dems utilise the tools of rational argument, and are calm and cool, and
> the repubs appeal to emotion, fear, and (dare we say this) terror.
>
> Not all of either side, certainly, but a statistically significant
> majority.
>
> Alas, demagoguery works better with the electorate than pedagogy.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth
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