Should we open another list here as <a href="mailto:asterisk_politics@lists.digium.com">asterisk_politics@lists.digium.com</a>?<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/5/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jay R. Ashworth</b>
<<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com">jra@baylink.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:03:28AM -0400, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
<br>> Are you looking for ways to excuse the child molesting Foley did just<br>> because he continued carrying on after the boys were legally men?<br><br>Let's be *perfectly clear* here, shall we?<br><br>"Talking dirty" to them does not constitute "child molestation" under
<br>any construction of anyone's law that I'm aware of.<br><br>And 16 isn't exactly a child, either.<br><br>> What kind of depraved child molester protector are you? Other than<br>> "Republican" - that much is so obvious that it's redundant. Now tell us
<br>> that I shouldn't go so hard on Foley, because it's not his fault that<br>> god made him gay.<br><br>You can go as hard on Foley as you like. I hope he takes the whole,<br>sordid, hypocritical Republican establishment down with him. just lets
<br>be hard on him for the right reasons: he owed a duty to his<br>constituency not to get embroiled in a scandal, and he owed a duty to<br>those pages *specifically*, because he was or had been in a position of<br>direct power and control over them. He failed in those duties.
<br><br>Would this have been less likely to have happened had he been out about<br>his preference? (For men, I mean, not for boys.) Yeah, probably.<br><br>Is it society's fault that he felt he needed to be even partially in
<br>the closet? Yes?<br><br>Am *I* gay? No.<br><br>Do I want people to confuse me for Donald Rumsfeld? Not even on your<br>birthday. :-)<br><br>You can tell the repubs apart from the dems because, by and large, the<br>
dems utilise the tools of rational argument, and are calm and cool, and<br>the repubs appeal to emotion, fear, and (dare we say this) terror.<br><br>Not all of either side, certainly, but a statistically significant<br>majority.
<br><br>Alas, demagoguery works better with the electorate than pedagogy.<br><br>Cheers,<br>-- jra<br>--<br>Jay
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