[asterisk-biz] Voipjet provider

Mike Lynchfield theclubvoip at gmail.com
Wed Jun 7 11:13:19 MST 2006


Ok good point the enum .

ill take a look.

#2.. to be on the list the qualifications are mainly
   1) be a 011 number ( thats where the fraud is)
   2) be posted by a reg account
   3) add a reason.. obviousely ( i hate hte guy) wont do.
   4) prepare to be flamed in public if it is proven you falsely created
entries ;)



On 6/7/06, trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:07 -0400, Mike Lynchfield wrote:
> > In life you always get what you pay for, except some times.. maybe 2
> > times in a lifetime you get lucky.
> >
>
> not always, sometimes the less expensive item is actually better than
> the one that costs more.
>
> > Everyone wants everything free and get all the suppoprt with it. thats
> > common knowledge.
> >
> And companies like trxtel.com provide both free service and support.  We
> even pay you instead of you paying us :)
>
>
> > As long as hardware and services have a cost there will be need for
> > profit.
> >
>
> agreed its just a matter of who is paying, given that we offer a service
> free, provide support with that service (sometimes outside of the scope
> of the service we provide) and it doesnt cost the recipient of the call
> anything extra you gotta wonder ...  of course we dont provide every
> service (yet)  We have plans of providing more services, although all
> cant be free :)
>
>
> > So until we can replicate our xeon and sunfire's with scotty's
> > replicator we are offering something for the new users.
> >
>
> replicators are overrated.  How many times did they break?
>
>
> > Root access to the box will be needed ( you can change the password
> > for a temporary one)
> > If you don't feel comfortable with this ,we can try to explain how to
> > do it.
> >
> > This applies to vanilla asterisk.
> >
> > Somebody said Service ?
>
>
> That isnt bad service, just wonder if that will hold up if you have many
> new signups all requesting that at the same time stuff breaks, or is
> this a promo service?
>
>
>
>
> > ps : dont forget to help out the community at
> > http://blackhole.theclubvoip.com
> >
> >
>
> here is an idea, why not roll that into an enum style service where a
> client can do a enum query, if it exists they can either TTS an err
> message (perhaps "err:message here" ??) otherwise the call goes through.
> This would be trivial for you guys to create a little check macro using
> asterisk's enum, be more or less portable with other services that have
> enum already installed (by creating a null route perhaps for types sip
> and whatever) be RBL style more or less (not identical but ...) and
> easier for people to query in general.
>
> powerdns for example is a dns server that takes many backends incl
> mysql/postgres so you can easily integrate this with whatever front end
> web whatever...
>
> You could even have different 'zones' voipspam, fraud, suspicious, etc.
> and people could select which enum entries they want based on
> subdomains.  Although I dont think asterisk allows you via the dialplan
> to limit calls based on SRC IP you could include IPs as well as numbers
> and do both inbound as well as outbound filtering.
>
>
> I am curious though what verification is done on a number to say that
> its 'bad' as opposed to someone doesnt like someone else so they submit
> all their numbers in the hopes of causing that person grief.  Then there
> are people that scream fraud becuase they screwed up and didnt charge
> their costs, even on fixed cost numbers (people have claimed that +448xx
> excluding 800 (although those are banned many places becuase its a 8*
> block) are fraud even though the termination costs for each class of
> service in the 8xx range is fixed - they just charged a geographic rate
> instead of a non-geo rate).
>
> So anyway to be clear, what is the verification process for a number to
> be blacklisted?
>
> --
> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com     Bret McDanel
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> http://www.trxtel.com we pay you to terminate calls with us!
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Mike
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