Ok good point the enum .<br><br>ill take a look.<br><br>#2.. to be on the list the qualifications are mainly <br> 1) be a 011 number ( thats where the fraud is)<br> 2) be posted by a reg account<br> 3) add a reason.. obviousely ( i hate hte guy) wont do.
<br> 4) prepare to be flamed in public if it is proven you falsely created entries ;)<br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/7/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">trixter aka Bret McDanel</b> <<a href="mailto:trixter@0xdecafbad.com">
trixter@0xdecafbad.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:07 -0400, Mike Lynchfield wrote:
<br>> In life you always get what you pay for, except some times.. maybe 2<br>> times in a lifetime you get lucky.<br>><br><br>not always, sometimes the less expensive item is actually better than<br>the one that costs more.
<br><br>> Everyone wants everything free and get all the suppoprt with it. thats<br>> common knowledge.<br>><br>And companies like <a href="http://trxtel.com">trxtel.com</a> provide both free service and support. We
<br>even pay you instead of you paying us :)<br><br><br>> As long as hardware and services have a cost there will be need for<br>> profit.<br>><br><br>agreed its just a matter of who is paying, given that we offer a service
<br>free, provide support with that service (sometimes outside of the scope<br>of the service we provide) and it doesnt cost the recipient of the call<br>anything extra you gotta wonder ... of course we dont provide every
<br>service (yet) We have plans of providing more services, although all<br>cant be free :)<br><br><br>> So until we can replicate our xeon and sunfire's with scotty's<br>> replicator we are offering something for the new users.
<br>><br><br>replicators are overrated. How many times did they break?<br><br><br>> Root access to the box will be needed ( you can change the password<br>> for a temporary one)<br>> If you don't feel comfortable with this ,we can try to explain how to
<br>> do it.<br>><br>> This applies to vanilla asterisk.<br>><br>> Somebody said Service ?<br><br><br>That isnt bad service, just wonder if that will hold up if you have many<br>new signups all requesting that at the same time stuff breaks, or is
<br>this a promo service?<br><br><br><br><br>> ps : dont forget to help out the community at<br>> <a href="http://blackhole.theclubvoip.com">http://blackhole.theclubvoip.com</a><br>><br>><br><br>here is an idea, why not roll that into an enum style service where a
<br>client can do a enum query, if it exists they can either TTS an err<br>message (perhaps "err:message here" ??) otherwise the call goes through.<br>This would be trivial for you guys to create a little check macro using
<br>asterisk's enum, be more or less portable with other services that have<br>enum already installed (by creating a null route perhaps for types sip<br>and whatever) be RBL style more or less (not identical but ...) and<br>
easier for people to query in general.<br><br>powerdns for example is a dns server that takes many backends incl<br>mysql/postgres so you can easily integrate this with whatever front end<br>web whatever...<br><br>You could even have different 'zones' voipspam, fraud, suspicious, etc.
<br>and people could select which enum entries they want based on<br>subdomains. Although I dont think asterisk allows you via the dialplan<br>to limit calls based on SRC IP you could include IPs as well as numbers<br>and do both inbound as well as outbound filtering.
<br><br><br>I am curious though what verification is done on a number to say that<br>its 'bad' as opposed to someone doesnt like someone else so they submit<br>all their numbers in the hopes of causing that person grief. Then there
<br>are people that scream fraud becuase they screwed up and didnt charge<br>their costs, even on fixed cost numbers (people have claimed that +448xx<br>excluding 800 (although those are banned many places becuase its a 8*
<br>block) are fraud even though the termination costs for each class of<br>service in the 8xx range is fixed - they just charged a geographic rate<br>instead of a non-geo rate).<br><br>So anyway to be clear, what is the verification process for a number to
<br>be blacklisted?<br><br>--<br>Trixter <a href="http://www.0xdecafbad.com">http://www.0xdecafbad.com</a> Bret McDanel<br>Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461 DE +49 801 777 555 3402<br>Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479
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