[asterisk-biz] Fraud

[Brian]

I honor what comes back from my DB.  When you run our API it does a live dip
in the database I use for pricing your call.  I try to do updates to the
database then traffic is low which is usually around 2-3 am or so..  but
nevertheless..   To answer your question yes, if you get back a price place
the call and the numbers don't match then I will change the cost of the
call.  Mind you I do keep logs of every LCR API attempt to keep people
honest.  

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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:37 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Fraud

So what happens if I use rate check macros and they return a reasonable
cost? Chris from voicepulse and Brian from plainvoip can answer me. Do
you guarantee the rates returned or not?

Anybody accepting paypal, plastic, echecks, etc. needs to do proper risk
management. I had a customer who didn't want to pay for the time
involved in customizing his code for that purpose. I explained various
techniques that needed to be added to his system. One very simple
example is a limit on how many cards a shopper can try at checkout time.
I told him that if he didn't follow my advice I would still implement
what he wanted as long as the specs and waivers were signed. Now he is
an ex-customer with 3 stores offline for over a week now because the new
"guru" broke everything. Face it, some people should stick with brick
and mortar stores.


Mike Lynchfield wrote:

> may i add that those ... hmm .. censured just got another passed in ..
> but we flagged it via our temrination block.
>
> IT seems that fraudsters are now using Phishing techniques to gather
> REAL banking information from the victims.
>
> So now , a simple verify bank or credit card method can not be used as
> they got online access to the accounts.
>
> We will add more services to this matter as we have quite a few 
> tricks in our sleeves regarding total elimination of these methods.
>
>
>
> On 6/6/06, *Florian Overkamp* <florian at speakup.nl
> <mailto:florian at speakup.nl>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Mike,
>
>     Mike Lynchfield wrote:
>     > Black/white status is what we do , but some might want to only block
>     > numbers that have a score of 5+ of being for fraud.
>
>     That makes sense, but only if a clear vision is behind the
>     scoring, and
>     who is giving the score (I might take a flag from our national
>     regulator
>     more serious than some unknown voip reseller on the other side of the
>     globe).
>
>     > i would say this would be a list of maybe max 50 numbers to 100
>     , wich
>     > represent fake clecs in foreign countries, or numbers that serve to
>     > defraud others.
>
>     Agreed.
>
>     --
>     Met vriendelijke groet,
>
>     Florian Overkamp
>     SpeakUp BV
>     T: 088-SPEAKUP (088-7732587)
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