[asterisk-biz] Asterisk GUI

[Zoa]

The resources taken up by apache or the mysql are as good as non 
existant (especially as it will be idling most of the time), as long as 
you don't do big queries (e.g. a search for a certain CDR). And if you 
do big queries it doesn't matter if there is 1 call or 100 calls going 
on. (they will aaaall gooo doooown toooogether....:-).

(Of course, if asterisk is already taking up 90% of your resources, the 
query could be a little smaller and still cause problems).

The only reasons you don't want to run it on the same server is
1) avoid extra security risks (easily bypassed by some good firewall rules)
2) avoid all disk activity - easily done by running mysql on a different 
server and leaving the apache (that will probably start or stop 
asterisk, or alter config files) on the same server as asterisk.

If you want to restart your asterisk server through a webinterface, it 
doesn't matter if its some standalone daemon doing it, or apache doing 
it, the result will be the same. (and the resources to do so will 
approximately be the same).

If only your dialplan is in the mysql, and its dumped to config files on 
disk (as most gui's seem to do it), impact is very minimal. (unless you 
have thousands of extensions or thousands of users).

Yes, apache might crash and might take up all resources. (But how often 
did you see that happen on a server with a configuration tool that is 
used once, and then left alone most of the time ?)

Running a configuration tool on X on the same server is a different 
story of course.

The only thing to answer for yourself is, how much resources (i/o / cpu) 
is this apache + mysql going to use ?

Instead of looking at apache, i'd start by looking at more important 
issues (more often forgot and with much bigger consequences) such as 
cron and ntpdate or updatedb, or mail / ftp servers on the same machine

The gui is the least of your worries..

Zoa

William Boehlke wrote:

> For 100 calls, you’ve normally got plenty of system capacity to run 
> mysql and apache, for example, on the call processing server.
>
> When maximum throughput is the objective, move everything but call 
> processing onto another server.
>
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> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex 
> Epshteyn
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 2:34 PM
> *To:* 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
> *Subject:* RE: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk GUI
>
> The simple answer is that the less you run on the box the better, but 
> if you do need web based configuration, you would have to run 
> something – web server or Webmin, or whatever else that gives you web 
> access. Some tools require a web server AND a database server, or a 
> separate database server, etc.
>
> You could potentially install PBX Manager on a “non production” box, 
> configure what you need and then move the configuration files, but you 
> will loose some functionality this way.
>
> -Alex
>
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>
> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *smbPBX
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 2:08 PM
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk GUI
>
> I have shied away from Thirdlane becuause I recall that some Asterisk 
> gurus have stated that it is *NOT* a good idea to run webmin on the 
> same server as production Asterisk.
>
> Any truth to that claim?
>
> smbPBX
>
> On 1/13/06, *Alex Epshteyn* <alex at thirdlane.com 
> <mailto:alex at thirdlane.com>> wrote:
>
> Please take a look at Asterisk PBX Manager - our Webmin based GUI for
> Asterisk.
>
> It is very easy to install, it comes with useful scripts/features, it does
> not require any databases, etc and it allows plenty of flexibility in the
> way Asterisk can be configured.
>
> We are currently beta testing a multi tenant version - anyone 
> interested in
> helping with beta testing?
>
> We are also planning to release a limited (by a number of phones and
> mailboxes) free version for home/personal use - probably next week.
>
> PBX Manager costs $295 for an unlimited number of phones/mailboxes. 
> Starting
> in February we will be moving to a tiered pricing, so if you are 
> considering
> buying PBX Manager and have more than 25 phones/mailboxes, now is the time
> :-).
>
> You can find more information on our website http://www.thirdlane.com and
> see a live demo at https://thirdlane.amer.net:10000 (user demo password
> insecure). Some of the PBX Manager features are disabled for the demo user
> (using Webmin access control). The demo user is not allowed to perform 
> any
> "admin" level functionality - like restarting * or executing * commands,
> uploading or downloading configuration files, accessing files directly, or
> changing GUI theme or language - you should just imagine those 
> features are
> available :-).
>
> Alex
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com 
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>> bounces at lists.digium.com <mailto:bounces at lists.digium.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Saul Diaz
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:28 AM
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk GUI
>>
>> Jonathan k. Creasy wrote:
>>
>> >Heh, they just made some images and put them out there to see if there
>> >was a response, now they will build a product :)
>> >
>> >(just kidding....)
>> >
>> >-jonathan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com 
> <mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com> [mailto:asterisk-biz- 
> <mailto:asterisk-biz->
>> >>bounces at lists.digium.com <mailto:bounces at lists.digium.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Matt Riddell (IT)
>> >>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:31 AM
>> >>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> >>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk GUI
>> >>
>> >>Mike Fedyk wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Saul Diaz wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi
>> >>>>
>> >>>>For those interested in a GUI for asterisk...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>plz take a look of our new version. currently with windows for
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >memory
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>and network utilization too
>> >>>>
>> >>>>http://www.cripiland.com/screenshots/manager1.jpg
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>The web server is down. I'm getting a connection refused message.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>Same, and still no response as to the licence/cost.
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>
>> >>Matt Riddell
>> >>_______________________________________________
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>> :) i can say is not a good idea. definitelly the images are send to see
>> the response. we want to put this on the street as a product.
>>
>> but no.. we already have the product on hand and is being use already..
>> Right now our instalations are going with these.
>>
>> regards
>> Saul Diaz
>>
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