[asterisk-biz] "Expensive Country" DID Needed
Smith - BESTCOM GROUP
smith at bestcom.com.br
Mon Feb 13 04:49:16 MST 2006
Hey people ... people ...
Sorry to put a "non requested" opinion here but, I think more than room to sarcasm we do have room for positivism and a few laughts afterall ... Lets try to keep up the good thing and just forget about the bad ones ...
With "30 years and almost one hart attack" I vote for the funny stuff once in a while since the lack of it allmost killed me :-)
BUT PLEASE, I´m not saying we shouldn´t respect other´s opinions and, nevertheless, not to do serious business.
Just my "2 cents of reals" for you all.
Ps.: In Brazil calls are indeed very expensive (National and International) but we do have a lot of ITSP working down here with great services .... If you need DIDs from Brazil I´m ready to do business.
Best Regards,
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----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] "Expensive Country" DID Needed
I am very serious. There is no room (in my opinion) for sarcasm in such a business environment, especially between people that do not know each other.
The point is that even if my message was confusing/unclear (although it's clearly stated in my message "to which", and from the other direct responses that I received, it seems that people understood, even if I forgot to put "... in Africa ...") or hard to understand, there are too many sarcastic/cynical/rude responses in this list.
It is not my role to educate people, but I (and I believe that many people in the list agree with me) don't plan to work with people that do not respond to me politely, as I do to them, if I choose to answer their queries/posts.
In the few months I'm on this list, I found some cou rteous and professional serious business partners with whom I'm working satisfactorily, but, as I said, there are many of the other kind, as well, and that's unfortunate.
David
Linus Surguy <linus at magrathea-telecom.co.uk> wrote:
Oh do be serious!
My reply may have been sarcastic, but the points were still valid. The list
is full of people with a wide range of experience who are more than happy to
help. However, they can only do so if you can clear about your requirements,
something that was lacking from your request.
You asked for DID numbers from 'from a country to which calls are usually
expensive' - did you mean calls made to that country are expensive, and in
which case, which country will be making those calls, or did you mea n 'from
a country where calls are expensive to make', and in that case, national
calls, or international calls?
You then go on to say 'such as Africa, South America (the expensive ones),
Middle East or others' - given this list, (which are clearly not countries!)
did you really mean to say 'anywhere except North America/Europe'?
Finally, the use the numbers will be put to does matter, a provider will
want to know if you have callback or similar in mind as frequently this
usage is restricted or subject to different charging. You also say 'little
or no volume' - one assumes that you don't need multiple concurrent calls,
but it helps if you say.
No one is after your marketing secrets, but you'll get a better response if
you consider the above.
Linus
----- Original Message -----
From: "David"
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] "Expensive Country" DID Needed
> Who appointed you to be the list's assumptions manager?
>
> You have no idea what I need these numbers for, and it's none of your
> business anyway.
>
> I posted a clear request to the list. If you can't provide an answer my
> requirement, no one asks you what you think about it.
>
> I find that there are too many people in the list that have nothing to do
> in life except for criticizing other people all the time instead of
> letting people work and benefit from the existence of this list.
>
> And to think I was considering at a certain point to buy UK DIDs from your
> company. You actually revealed your true face before I entered into a long
> term relationship with you.
>
> David
> Linus Surguy wrote:
>
>
> It is a bit much to expect the list to do your work for you. I'm assuming
> from this that you actually want to run a callback service, and are
> looking
> for 'trigger' numbers, but you don't know what country you want to offer
> this to, you want the list to tell you which market to go for!?
>
> Linus
>
>
>
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