[asterisk-biz] December Specials

Matt Dunkin mdunkin at innflux.com
Mon Dec 11 11:25:54 MST 2006


I agree with Al that it is possible to use TB (and we do have a few 
servers running it) however in some cases where heavy modification is 
needed its probably easier just to go straight to the source, Asterisk.

Thanks,
Matt Dunkin

Al Bochter wrote:
> I am using TB and selling DID's, VoiceMail Boxes. TF DID's, CLEC and 
> other services.
> And Run over 4,000,000 Mins per month over 18 trunks with TB
>
> So Mike where would you like to put your foot now? :-!
>
> Like I said TB is Asterisk with a GUI
>
> Yes, SellVoip has mistake's and they need to resolve. Like keeping 
> there word to there customers not playing scam that they are a BIG 
> player in VoIP.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Al Bochter
> Bochter Services
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>
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>
> Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Some providers are a wholesale provider.  Their business is 
>> engineered around selling to people that move hundreds of thousands 
>> or millions of minutes a month.  That's not a TrixBox installation.
>>  
>> I am still building my own business, but I plan to sell into many 
>> different markets.  I will have to engineer my business towards these 
>> on the various markets.
>>  
>> There are indeed two kinds of use, perhaps I labeled them wrong.  
>> Wholesale and retail.  A wholesale operator sells DIDs, minutes, 
>> channels, etc.  A retail operator sells packages.  A wholesale user 
>> says give me an account, perform interoperability tests, goes live, 
>> and doesn't bother support.  A retail user requires much more 
>> handholding, thus needs to be priced higher.
>>  
>> Yes, SellVoip made a mistake and they need to resolve this.  However, 
>> the user needs to select the appropriate provider and conduct their 
>> due diligence before selecting their provider.
>>  
>>  
>> ----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>  
>>  
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* DM <mailto:lansiptelecom at gmail.com>
>>     *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>     <mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>     *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2006 9:10 AM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] December Specials
>>
>>     You are sadly mistaken.  Trixbox user does not equal "hobbyist". 
>>     There are plenty of people using Trixbox in production
>>     environments.  Why should they deserve less quality/service from
>>     vendors?  I use AAH/TB internally at three different locations. 
>>     It does everything I want it to do and more.  I know we run over
>>     4,000 minutes a month out of this office.  Granted, it is not
>>     Fortune 500 size, but it is not "hobbyist" either.
>>
>>     Why only two categories of users, wholesale and hobbyist?  There
>>     are alot of people who I would consider fall between those two
>>     categories.  (Like the kind of people who you sell VoIP service
>>     to http://www.ics-il.com/voip.php.)  So, would you knowlingly not
>>     sell service to someone because they were using TB?
>>
>>     Whether they should have marketed directly to TB users or not is
>>     irrelevant, the fact is they did. 
>>
>>
>>     On 12/10/06, *Mike Hammett* <asterisk-biz at ics-il.net
>>     <mailto:asterisk-biz at ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         There's a difference between the support needs of a wholesale
>>         customer and the hobbyists on Trixbox.
>>          
>>         They probably shouldn't have marketed to such a user, but
>>         alas everyone makes mistakes.  One could only hope that they
>>         stayed more focused on the wholesale user than the hobbyist.
>>          
>>          
>>         ----
>>         Mike Hammett
>>         Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>         http://www.ics-il.com
>>          
>>          
>>
>>             ----- Original Message -----
>>             *From:* DM <mailto:lansiptelecom at gmail.com>
>>             *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>>             Discussion <mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>             *Sent:* Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:04 AM
>>             *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] December Specials
>>
>>             Is this the same sellVoIP that is catching hell over at
>>             the Trixbox forums?
>>             http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7228&forum=1#forumpost28322
>>             <http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7228&forum=1#forumpost28322+>
>>             http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5850&forum=5#forumpost22905
>>             <http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5850&forum=5#forumpost22905>
>>             http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6348&forum=2#forumpost24783
>>             <http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6348&forum=2#forumpost24783>
>>
>>             Sounds like you need to get your act together first
>>             before you start offering specials to get new victims,
>>             err customers.
>>
>>             On 12/9/06, *Jed Stafford* <jeds at sellvoip.net
>>             <mailto:jeds at sellvoip.net>> wrote:
>>
>>                 End of year specials from SellVoIP.
>>
>>                 Unlimited inbound channels :
>>
>>                 Sign up for a channel based DID and receive 50
>>                 unlimited inbound channels through the end of the
>>                 year free of charge. After January 1st, you can add
>>                 as many channels as you need at our regular rate of
>>                 $5.95 per unlimited inbound channel per month. Our
>>                 DID's are still just $1.00 per DID per month. Our
>>                 channel products are SIP only.
>>
>>                 Canada on the cheap:
>>
>>                 All Canada termination (except 867 Yukon) is being
>>                 offered at $0.007 per minute through the end of the
>>                 year. New customers (signed up between now and
>>                 December 31, 2006) are offered Toll-Free origination
>>                 from Canada at $0.025 per minute.
>>
>>                 You may sign up at :
>>                 https://www.sellvoip.net/order.php
>>
>>                 All products are directly connected to us by major
>>                 operating carriers in our facilities around the world.
>>
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