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I agree with Al that it is possible to use TB (and we do have a few
servers running it) however in some cases where heavy modification is
needed its probably easier just to go straight to the source, Asterisk.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Matt Dunkin<br>
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Al Bochter wrote:
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I am using TB and selling DID's, VoiceMail Boxes. TF DID's, CLEC and
other services.<font face="Arial" size="2"><br>
And Run over 4,000,000 Mins per month over 18 trunks with TB<br>
<br>
So Mike where would you like to put your foot now? <span
class="moz-smiley-s13"><span> :-! </span></span><br>
<br>
Like I said TB is Asterisk with a GUI<br>
<br>
Yes, SellVoip has mistake's and they need to resolve. Like keeping
there word to there customers not playing scam that they are a BIG
player in VoIP.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best regards,
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Mike Hammett wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Some providers are a wholesale
provider. Their business is engineered around selling to people that
move hundreds of thousands or millions of minutes a month. That's not
a TrixBox installation.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I am still building my own
business,
but I plan to sell into many different markets. I will have to
engineer my business towards these on the various markets.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">There are indeed two kinds of use,
perhaps I labeled them wrong. Wholesale and retail. A wholesale
operator sells DIDs, minutes, channels, etc. A retail operator sells
packages. A wholesale user says give me an account, perform
interoperability tests, goes live, and doesn't bother support. A
retail user requires much more handholding, thus needs to be priced
higher.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, SellVoip made a mistake and
they need to resolve this. However, the user needs to select the
appropriate provider and conduct their due diligence before selecting
their provider.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>----<br>
Mike Hammett<br>
Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
<a href="http://www.ics-il.com">http://www.ics-il.com</a></div>
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<a title="lansiptelecom@gmail.com"
href="mailto:lansiptelecom@gmail.com">DM</a> </div>
<div
style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>
<a title="asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"
href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</a> </div>
<div
style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>
Monday, December 11, 2006 9:10 AM</div>
<div
style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [asterisk-biz] December Specials</div>
<div><br>
</div>
You are sadly mistaken. Trixbox user does not equal "hobbyist". There
are plenty of people using Trixbox in production environments. Why
should they deserve less quality/service from vendors? I use AAH/TB
internally at three different locations. It does everything I want it
to do and more. I know we run over 4,000 minutes a month out of this
office. Granted, it is not Fortune 500 size, but it is not "hobbyist"
either. <br>
<br>
Why only two categories of users, wholesale and hobbyist? There are
alot of people who I would consider fall between those two categories.
(Like the kind of people who you sell VoIP service to <a
href="http://www.ics-il.com/voip.php.">http://www.ics-il.com/voip.php.</a>)
So, would you knowlingly not sell service to someone because they were
using TB?<br>
<br>
Whether they should have marketed directly to TB users or not is
irrelevant, the fact is they did. <br>
<br>
<br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/10/06, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Mike Hammett</b> <<a
href="mailto:asterisk-biz@ics-il.net">asterisk-biz@ics-il.net</a>>
wrote:</span>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">There's a difference between
the
support needs of a wholesale customer and the hobbyists on Trixbox.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">They probably shouldn't have
marketed to such a user, but alas everyone makes mistakes. One could
only hope that they stayed more focused on the wholesale user than the
hobbyist.</font></div>
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<div> </div>
<div>----<br>
Mike Hammett<br>
Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
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<div
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<a title="lansiptelecom@gmail.com"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:lansiptelecom@gmail.com" target="_blank">DM</a> </div>
<div
style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>
<a title="asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">Commercial
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</a> </div>
<div
style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:04 AM</div>
<div
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Re: [asterisk-biz] December Specials</div>
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</div>
Is this the same sellVoIP that is catching hell over at the Trixbox
forums?<br>
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7228&forum=1#forumpost28322+"
target="_blank">http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7228&forum=1#forumpost28322
</a><br>
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5850&forum=5#forumpost22905"
target="_blank">http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5850&forum=5#forumpost22905
</a><br>
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6348&forum=2#forumpost24783"
target="_blank">http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6348&forum=2#forumpost24783
</a><br>
<br>
Sounds like you need to get your act together first before you start
offering specials to get new victims, err customers. <br>
<br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/9/06, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Jed Stafford</b> <<a
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:jeds@sellvoip.net" target="_blank">jeds@sellvoip.net</a>>
wrote:</span>
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<p><font size="2">End of year specials from SellVoIP.<br>
<br>
Unlimited inbound channels :<br>
<br>
Sign up for a channel based DID and receive 50 unlimited inbound
channels through the end of the year free of charge. After January 1st,
you can add as many channels as you need at our regular rate of $5.95
per unlimited inbound channel per month. Our DID's are still just $1.00
per DID per month. Our channel products are SIP only. <br>
<br>
Canada on the cheap:<br>
<br>
All Canada termination (except 867 Yukon) is being offered at $0.007
per minute through the end of the year. New customers (signed up
between now and December 31, 2006) are offered Toll-Free origination
from Canada at $0.025 per minute. <br>
<br>
You may sign up at :<br>
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="https://www.sellvoip.net/order.php" target="_blank">https://www.sellvoip.net/order.php</a><br>
<br>
All products are directly connected to us by major operating carriers
in our facilities around the world.</font> </p>
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