[asterisk-biz] December Specials

Al Bochter Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com
Mon Dec 11 10:27:21 MST 2006


I am using TB and selling DID's, VoiceMail Boxes. TF DID's, CLEC and 
other services.
And Run over 4,000,000 Mins per month over 18 trunks with TB

So Mike where would you like to put your foot now? :-!

Like I said TB is Asterisk with a GUI

Yes, SellVoip has mistake's and they need to resolve. Like keeping there 
word to there customers not playing scam that they are a BIG player in VoIP.

Best regards,

Al Bochter
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Mike Hammett wrote:

> Some providers are a wholesale provider.  Their business is engineered 
> around selling to people that move hundreds of thousands or millions 
> of minutes a month.  That's not a TrixBox installation.
>  
> I am still building my own business, but I plan to sell into many 
> different markets.  I will have to engineer my business towards these 
> on the various markets.
>  
> There are indeed two kinds of use, perhaps I labeled them wrong.  
> Wholesale and retail.  A wholesale operator sells DIDs, minutes, 
> channels, etc.  A retail operator sells packages.  A wholesale user 
> says give me an account, perform interoperability tests, goes live, 
> and doesn't bother support.  A retail user requires much more 
> handholding, thus needs to be priced higher.
>  
> Yes, SellVoip made a mistake and they need to resolve this.  However, 
> the user needs to select the appropriate provider and conduct their 
> due diligence before selecting their provider.
>  
>  
> ----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>  
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* DM <mailto:lansiptelecom at gmail.com>
>     *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     <mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>     *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2006 9:10 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] December Specials
>
>     You are sadly mistaken.  Trixbox user does not equal "hobbyist". 
>     There are plenty of people using Trixbox in production
>     environments.  Why should they deserve less quality/service from
>     vendors?  I use AAH/TB internally at three different locations. 
>     It does everything I want it to do and more.  I know we run over
>     4,000 minutes a month out of this office.  Granted, it is not
>     Fortune 500 size, but it is not "hobbyist" either.
>
>     Why only two categories of users, wholesale and hobbyist?  There
>     are alot of people who I would consider fall between those two
>     categories.  (Like the kind of people who you sell VoIP service to
>     http://www.ics-il.com/voip.php.)  So, would you knowlingly not
>     sell service to someone because they were using TB?
>
>     Whether they should have marketed directly to TB users or not is
>     irrelevant, the fact is they did. 
>
>
>     On 12/10/06, *Mike Hammett* <asterisk-biz at ics-il.net
>     <mailto:asterisk-biz at ics-il.net>> wrote:
>
>         There's a difference between the support needs of a wholesale
>         customer and the hobbyists on Trixbox.
>          
>         They probably shouldn't have marketed to such a user, but alas
>         everyone makes mistakes.  One could only hope that they stayed
>         more focused on the wholesale user than the hobbyist.
>          
>          
>         ----
>         Mike Hammett
>         Intelligent Computing Solutions
>         http://www.ics-il.com
>          
>          
>
>             ----- Original Message -----
>             *From:* DM <mailto:lansiptelecom at gmail.com>
>             *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>             <mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>             *Sent:* Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:04 AM
>             *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] December Specials
>
>             Is this the same sellVoIP that is catching hell over at
>             the Trixbox forums?
>             http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7228&forum=1#forumpost28322
>             <http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7228&forum=1#forumpost28322+>
>             http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5850&forum=5#forumpost22905
>             <http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5850&forum=5#forumpost22905>
>             http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6348&forum=2#forumpost24783
>             <http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6348&forum=2#forumpost24783>
>
>             Sounds like you need to get your act together first before
>             you start offering specials to get new victims, err
>             customers.
>
>             On 12/9/06, *Jed Stafford* <jeds at sellvoip.net
>             <mailto:jeds at sellvoip.net>> wrote:
>
>                 End of year specials from SellVoIP.
>
>                 Unlimited inbound channels :
>
>                 Sign up for a channel based DID and receive 50
>                 unlimited inbound channels through the end of the year
>                 free of charge. After January 1st, you can add as many
>                 channels as you need at our regular rate of $5.95 per
>                 unlimited inbound channel per month. Our DID's are
>                 still just $1.00 per DID per month. Our channel
>                 products are SIP only.
>
>                 Canada on the cheap:
>
>                 All Canada termination (except 867 Yukon) is being
>                 offered at $0.007 per minute through the end of the
>                 year. New customers (signed up between now and
>                 December 31, 2006) are offered Toll-Free origination
>                 from Canada at $0.025 per minute.
>
>                 You may sign up at :
>                 https://www.sellvoip.net/order.php
>
>                 All products are directly connected to us by major
>                 operating carriers in our facilities around the world.
>
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