[Asterisk-biz] Patent lawyers?

[Brian Fertig]

I know of these guys..  They suck and I have read the patents and don't see
how using a technology like asterisk's vmail is similar.  I mean seriously 
that would be like I have the patent for gas tanks but no other manufactures
can have a tank like mine..   BUT if you make it so different that it has
the same purpose but not the same then its not.  This is the same shit.  Big
business picking on the little guys..  They SUCK!


Just my 2 cents.. 


Brian Fertig


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On May 31, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Michael Welter wrote:

> Brian West wrote:
>
>> Anyone know a really good patent lawyers... Here are a list of   
>> patents we have been accused of violating: (And yes we run  
>> Asterisk +spandsp)
>> 5675507 - Message storage and delivery system (voicemail)
>> 6208638 - Method and apparatus for transmission and retrieval of   
>> facsimile and
>>             audio messages over a circuit or packet switched  
>> network  (spandsp sending faxes via email)
>> 6350066 - Systems and methods for storing, delivering, and  
>> managing  messages (think vmail.cgi)
>> 6564321 - Systems and methods for storing, delivering, and  
>> managing  messages (again vmail.cgi)
>> 6857074 - Systems and methods for storing, delivering, and  
>> managing  messages (same as the other two)
>> 6597688 - Scalable architecture for transmission of messages over  
>> a  network (usage with spandsp)
>> Non-Asterisk Related:
>> 6073165 -Filtering computer network messages directed to a user's  
>> e- mail box based on user defined filters, and forwarding a  
>> filtered  message to the user's receiver
>> Some of these patents are just silly and could apply to ANY  
>> voicemail  or messaging system on the planet even email.  We face  
>> a "real" legal  battle with these patents in question.. putting  
>> this out here because  it could have an effect on anyone offering  
>> services be it voicemail  or fax using Asterisk.
>>
> First, who is the accuser?  Let's immediately terminate any and all  
> business relationships with them.
>
> Second, why did they pick on you, Brian?  Are you a large player?
>
> Third, you'll either have to roll over or fight them.  Do you have  
> the resources?  Legal defense fund?
>
>
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