[Asterisk-biz] UK Toll Free
Craig
asterisk at nihost.net
Wed Mar 30 16:46:15 MST 2005
Hi Nicklass,
Just been through a similar look and see, not quite on the same scale
though.
Please note the following is purely my conclusions from feedback on this
list and elsewhere, keeping in mind I am in a remote location in the
southern hemisphere and look for information (not fancy graphics) on
websites. My experience is that a website that gives detailed
information on a product and facilities (usually means they have done it
before and may have even got it working) is usually a better indication
of a product that will work, rather than a site, that says contact us
for information (this usually means they will work out how to do it,
once you contact them).
I ended up finding http://www.voiptalk.org for my requirements and are
about to go with them. Just to give a rundown on some of my findings,
might save you some time....
http://www.VirtualPhoneLine.com seem to offer Did's just about anywhere
in the world, and push them on this list whenever someone asks, however
from spending a bit of time on their website (and affiliated websites),
all I can detect is that they infact offer a forwarding service to
another number, not actual termination to SIP or IAX (please correct me
if I am wrong and point me in the right direction), it would be my
expectation that termination is what most people on the list are looking
for, not a double translation to a second carrier.
http://www.livevoip.com seem to have reasonable grade services and offer
0800 uk numbers at a reasonable price. However as we aren't terminating
in the US we decided to go with a UK provider to keep the worldwide
numbers distinctly separate.
http://www.voiptalk.org seem to have the best offering for our
requirements, basically it is free of monthly charges 0845, 0870 numbers
and they seem to have quite good facilities for forwarding etc if your
IAX goes down, so for instance you can get them to forward to a us
landline if your IAX goes down.
There is a number of other suppliers out there that may meet your
requirements, just spend a couple of days Googling....
To give you a breakdown on UK call costs (as I have been able to work
out)...
0870 numbers are what they call national numbers and cost the caller
about 10p/min, You can get these from lots of places at no cost, cause
the receiving party gets a cut from the carrier, which if you are
getting reasonable call quantities you can get a cut off, people like
British Airways use these Reservations and probably earn themselves 4 or
5p a min whilst they leave customers on hold, great deal if you can get
it.
0845 numbers are what they call local numbers and cost the caller about
5p/min. Again the receiving party gets a cut from the carrier, which
means if you look around you can get these for nothing (but probably
won't earn any revenue).
0800 numbers are in fact free (I gather to all callers, not sure about
mobiles?) you will pay 3 or 4p a min to receive calls.
You might also consider a local geographic DID as I am told many
consumers have call plans that provide very cheap calls to a local
number anywhere in the UK, so in other words it is cheaper for people to
ring a geographic number on the other side of the country than ring a
0845 national number.
However as I said above, many of the big companies seem to get away with
the 0870 and I can only presume people ring them (maybe it is because
their choices are limited) we went with an 0845 number, simply because
we didn't want people using a 0800 number as an information service
cause it is free. I would suggest you find out what the prefix is of
your competitors and you will get an idea of how well it is accepted.
If anybody would like to add anything or correct any mistakes in my
conclusions, please feel free to do so, as I said previously it is only
what I have worked out from information available, I don't claim to be
an expert on UK termination, just somebody going through a similar
exercise and offer some help back to users that have helped me.
Craig.
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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nick Newsom
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:27 PM
To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] UK Toll Free
I operate a US Based Call Center for television advertisers. Could
someone
suggest a UK Toll Free Provider that could forward traffic to my US
Based
Call Center? On occasion we receive up to 10,000 phone calls in a
single
hour and our company provides a no busy signal guarantee, hence I need a
solution that can handle a large amount of traffic. I'm not looking for
world's cheapest provider, someone reliable and someone I can talk to on
the
phone if I have a problem. I hope I'm not shooting myself in the foot
by
saying this, but $100 to whomever refers the best service.
Nicklaas Newsom
President / F9 Group Inc.
877.450.3282 Office
877.496.7812 Fax
<mailto:nick at f9group.com> nick at f9group.com
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:39:04 -0500
From: Saul Diaz <saul at cripiland.com>
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Florida DIDs
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Danny N wrote:
If anyone have this and have provisioning let me known too. i am
interested in the same route.
regards
Saul Diaz
Cripiland LC
> Hello:
>
> I am looking for FL DIDs. Please email me your unlimited and per usage
> pricings offline.
>
> If you have DIDs in other areas, please drop me a note. And I will
> follow up with you as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Danny
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:43:14 -0700
From: "David Aldworth" <daldworth at teliax.com>
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Florida DIDs
To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'"
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We have pretty good coverage in FL and are expanding it as we speak.
Pricing
is available both pay-as-you-go and Unlimited. Our website is
http://www.teliax.com
Looking forward to speaking with you.
Kind Regards,
David Aldworth
Teliax, Inc.
http://www.teliax.com
888.270.3688
Great rates. Outstanding Service.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Saul Diaz
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:39 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Florida DIDs
>
> Danny N wrote:
>
> If anyone have this and have provisioning let me known too. i am
> interested in the same route.
>
> regards
> Saul Diaz
> Cripiland LC
>
> > Hello:
> >
> > I am looking for FL DIDs. Please email me your unlimited and per
usage
> > pricings offline.
> >
> > If you have DIDs in other areas, please drop me a note. And I will
> > follow up with you as well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Danny
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:49:39 -0600
From: "Rehan Ahmed AllahWala - Super Technologies I"
<rehan at supertec.com>
Subject: (Fwd) [Asterisk-biz] UK Toll Free
To: <nick at f9group.com>
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Dear Nick,
You can save the 100$ by signing up on virtualphoneline.com
You get the uk 800 instantly and our rates are also very competitive,
Plust you can get
multiple calls at a time.
Let me know HOW MANY maximum you will get at a time, so i can try to
gurantee you the
qty of our channels available.
Rehan
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I operate a US Based Call Center for television advertisers. Could
someone suggest a UK
Toll Free Provider that could forward traffic to my US Based Call
Center? On occasion we
receive up to 10,000 phone calls in a single hour and our company
provides a no busy
signal guarantee, hence I need a solution that can handle a large amount
of traffic. ITm not
looking for worldTs cheapest provider, someone reliable and someone I
can talk to on the
phone if I have a problem. I hope ITm not shooting myself in the foot by
saying this, but
$100 to whomever refers the best service.
Nicklaas Newsom
President / F9 Group Inc.
877.450.3282 Office
877.496.7812 Fax
nick at f9group.com
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:04:16 -0500
From: Herman Webley <herman.webley at blitzllc.com>
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Florida DIDs
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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Hi,
I am seeking this as well. I have gotten a couple offers, but I am still
looking for the best solution.
I would require multiple incoming connections. If possible, I would want
NY, DC and MD as well as FL on the same channels. Perhaps per minute
providers would be my best bet.
Best regard,
Herman Webley
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 13:19 -0800, Danny N wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I am looking for FL DIDs. Please email me your unlimited and per usage
> pricings offline.
>
> If you have DIDs in other areas, please drop me a note. And I will
> follow up with you as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Danny
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:14:18 -0800
From: Preston Garrison <preston at mailblocks.com>
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] credit card payment
To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
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We pay $29.95 for our merchant account and less then $50 for startup
fees. Any reputable business should not have just one merchant account
but TWO. I don't know about you, but having my phones cut off because
i didn't go to my paypal account and add more funds to my account
doesn't sound like a good idea. I want my phone company to charge my
card every month for what I owe, so I don't have to worry about that.
You can exactly do that with any of those billing services.
Preston Garrison
direct: 877-748-4142
fax: 310-774-3901
cell: 623-748-4140
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From: Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) <Seshu.Kanuri at morganstanley.com>
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:42:56 -0500
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] credit card payment
Keneth Shaw Wrote:
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/Snip/
If you need an <a href="international"
target=_blank>http://www.highriskexperts.com">international
merchant account</a> we can help you with that.
Email me offlist and I can help you get in touch with our merchant
services department here at ExpiTrans.
/Snip/
Beware of the Merchant Account Scams around you.
-----------------------------------------------
Merchant Accounts rip you off if your transaction volumes are less than
$5000 a Month with fees like
-Setup charge
-Shopping cart and Software charge
-gateway fee
-Annual Maintennance fees
-Monthly Rstatement fees
-Discount rate ( 2.25 to 3%)
-Per transaction fee ( $0.25 to $0.35 )
If you are a startup and does not have much business, PayPal is the best
from all accounts.
Disclaimer:
-----------
I was one of the original Developers of Paypal when I was working for
them between 1999 and 2001. My recommendation is not based on my past
employment with them, but I have also been it's user all the time, till
now and am quite happy with it, inspite of the fact that PayPal also
rips you off if you collect payments from outside US into your US
account.
Seshu
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:30:46 -0500 (EST)
From: alex at pilosoft.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] credit card payment
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Preston Garrison wrote:
> We pay $29.95 for our merchant account and less then $50 for startup
> fees. Any reputable business should not have just one merchant
account
> but TWO. I don't know about you, but having my phones cut off because
> i didn't go to my paypal account and add more funds to my account
> doesn't sound like a good idea. I want my phone company to charge my
> card every month for what I owe, so I don't have to worry about that.
> You can exactly do that with any of those billing services.
Preston is dropping science like bombs. :)
Hear hear.
-alex
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