[Asterisk-biz] voip e911 and homeland security

trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com trixter at 0xdecafbad.com
Mon Aug 29 16:57:39 MST 2005


On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 19:31 -0400, Paul wrote:
> trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote:
> 
> >VoIP has, by its very nature, an IP address associated with it.  If the
> >FCC were to do anything wouldnt it be easier to make the ISPs record the
> >physical address where that link is installed to?  Of course this would
> >have to be dynamic due to dynamic IPs.  So a realtime lookup which
> >integrates to the phone network would be desirable.  Gee mandate more
> >people hop on SS7 by mandating the ISPs maintain location data (like the
> >GSM HLR) for the IP assignments incase of VoIP 911 calls.
> >  
> >
> I have detected intruders in networks. They came in from other hacked 
> networks. They could have actually been just about anywhere in the 
> world. The point is that providing the government with location data for 
> every IP only helps to keep track of honest people. If I can break into 
> a network I can tunnel just about anything through it. Incidents I have 
> investigated showed that the hackers often compiled and installed 
> whatever tools they needed on the systems they "borrowed".
> 

I did clearly say that it was in satire and that I dont think that any
of this should happen.  I think that there should be a big lobby group
of everyone in the voip industry to try to fight the government on
passing such blatently unconstutitional rules.  I am just one person,
the most I can do by myself is try to get others to join me, or leave
where I wont have to deal with such things until it fixes itself (yeah
right).



> >There is very little room in the constitution for the federal government
> >to mandate such stuff.  But with the surpeme court ruling the way it has
> >(everything is federal basically, screw the constitution) bleh I cant
> >wait until I can move.
> >  
> >
> I don't know about all that. When I was in elementary school they told 
> me the constitution was something that we all should be reading. Now I 
> guess things have changed and I'm too stupid to read the thing and 
> understand what it says.
> 

Most people dont care, they just let whatever happens happen.  They feel
that its better to pass unconstitutional laws than to amend the
constutition.  Look at the imminent domain ruling before.  If the
government wants to they can take your property and give it to another
*private* person in violation of the 5th amendment.  That was a 5:4
split, liberals win again woo hoo for not actually owning your property
but having it at the convienience of a local government who can decide
that their buddy who wants to put a shopping center where you live
should have the right to flatten your home.


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