[Asterisk-biz] Re: Asterisk-Biz Digest, Vol 9, Issue 123

yaohaixiang yaohaixiang at gohigh.com.cn
Wed Apr 27 23:52:36 MST 2005 

hello all,

Can you please give me any information about the asterisk used pbx manufacturer?

many thanks.


	


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2005-04-28
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>   1. Re: Canadian DID's (Jason Yeung)
>   2. RE: LiveVoip Multi Channel PBX City Plan (Preston Garrison)
>   3. Re: LiveVoip Multi Channel PBX City Plan (Kevin P. Fleming)
>   4. More Kudos to Teliax (Glenn Powers)
>   5. Re: CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New York City	area
>      (Mojo Jojo)
>   6. Re: CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New YorkCityarea
>      (Mojo Jojo)
>   7. Re: More Kudos to Teliax (Mojo Jojo)
>   8. Why? Are the CLEC's trying to keep people from using their
>      PRI's for	termination/origination these days? WAS: [Asterisk-biz]
>      CLECs	that provide ISDN PRI in the New YorkCityarea (Alexander Lopez)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:41:14 -0400
>From: Jason Yeung <jasonyeung at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Canadian DID's
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Message-ID: <91165f78050427194134f2da12 at mail.gmail.com>
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>I'm also interested. Please email me with details at jasonyeung [at] gmail.com.
>
>Thanks.
>Jason
>
>On 4/27/05, Herman Webley <herman.webley at blitzllc.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 21:53 -0400, Sergey Kuznetsov wrote:
>> >
>> > I have 2 PRIs in Toronto for incoming calls. On per minute basis. US$
>> > 0.005 per minute.
>> >
>> > list wrote:
>> > > Anybody offering Canadian DID's? Please e-mail me off-list w/
>> > > pricing information and interconnection methods.  Looking for 2
>> > > T-1's capacity.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Jon
>> > >
>> > > ____________________________________________________________________
>> > >
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > All the Best!
>> > Sergey.
>> > =========================
>> > Sergey Kuznetsov
>> > President/CEO
>> >          High Intellectual Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> Can you send me details, terms and conditions? Looking for toronto DIDs.
>> Well toronto DID for calling card app.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Herman Webley
>> 
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>
>
>-- 
>Jason Yeung
>Microsoft Certified Professional
>inspiration reality?
>
>jason at yeung.ws
>jasonyeung at gmail.com
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:03:32 -0700
>From: Preston Garrison <preston at mailblocks.com>
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] LiveVoip Multi Channel PBX City Plan
>To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>Message-ID: <preston-0BOtLA7UsDEAI1jvby0kx4cviiPmzdt at mailblocks.com>
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>No idea on NY :)
>
>Preston Garrison
>direct: 877-748-4142
>fax: 310-774-3901
>cell: 623-748-4140
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: alex at pilosoft.com
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion 
><asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Sent: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:03 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] LiveVoip Multi Channel PBX City Plan
>
>On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Preston Garrison wrote:
>
>> Well I highly doubt Qwest is going out of business any time soon, and
>> they are one of the peoples that can provide that.  If Qwest went out 
>of
>> business we all are in trouble.  But then again when you own both ends
>> of most routes, its not very hard to make the pricing whatever you 
>want.
>I stand corrected. It is quite possible that you are getting free local
>calls in Q markets. It all depends on the local tariffs.
>
>I can tell you that there's no way NYC local calls could be free on a 
>PRI
>:)
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:44:21 -0700
>From: "Kevin P. Fleming" <kpfleming at digium.com>
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] LiveVoip Multi Channel PBX City Plan
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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>alex at pilosoft.com wrote:
>
>> Uhh...Yes, you pay per-minute for outbound PRIs with pretty much every
>> carrier, even for local calls. You usually pay very very low rate on local
>> (note, not intralata toll) calls, but you still pay (0.004$/minute sounds
>> about right on that). 0.004$/minute is way too low even for non-blended.
>
>As you've already noticed in other messages, this is very 
>market-dependent. In Phoenix (and all of Arizona), retail PRIs come with 
>free local outbound calling, and free inbound calling. There are no 
>per-minute charges for any calls that do not involve either an IXC or 
>operator services. That is the case with the ILEC (QWest) and all CLECs 
>I know of in the market. Some carriers do offer inbound-only PRI as 
>well, with lower per-channel costs (and coverage across multiple NPAs in 
>the same local calling area).
>
>Now you _can_ buy wholesale PRI (poor man's SS7/IMT), in which case you 
>pay a lower per-channel cost and per-minute usage charges. This doesn't 
>make any sense business-wise until you are buying a large number of 
>channels, though.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:04:49 -0400 (EDT)
>From: "Glenn Powers" <glenn at net127.com>
>Subject: [Asterisk-biz] More Kudos to Teliax
>To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>Message-ID:
>	<49649.208.253.76.104.1114661089.squirrel at mail.braverock.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>This time for David Aldworth, daldworth at teliax.com, answering his phone at
>midnight (east coast time) and resolving an urgent issue! Thanks!
>
>cheers,
>glenn
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:08:20 -0500
>From: "Mojo Jojo" <mylist at lightwavetech.com>
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New
>	York City	area
>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Message-ID: <002201c54bb8$b1e83ce0$6b01a8c0 at tjrlptphp>
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>Get with Zach at ShopForT1.com and tell him Todd sent you..
>
>He has taken care of me very well. Zach is an agent that hunts for the best 
>deal for you.
>
>Hope this helps..
>
>--
>Private Label Wholesale Internet Access!
>http://www.YourOwnISP.com
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Zeno Lee" <zeno at streetsolutions.com>
>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
><asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:54 AM
>Subject: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New York City 
>area
>
>
>I'm having a hard time finding CLECs in the New York City area who
>provide ISDN PRI to connect my asterisk box via a Digium card.  Can
>anyone recommend a CLEC in New York that provide voice/data lines.
>
>And yes I've tried to google CLEC "New York City".  The results are
>worthless.
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:14:16 -0500
>From: "Mojo Jojo" <mylist at lightwavetech.com>
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New
>	YorkCityarea
>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Message-ID: <002d01c54bb9$85d6b180$6b01a8c0 at tjrlptphp>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>	reply-type=original
>
>Why? Are the CLEC's trying to keep people from using their PRI's for 
>termination/origination these days?
>
>
>Private Label Wholesale Internet Access!
>http://www.YourOwnISP.com
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Michael Young" <myoung at netlogic.net>
>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
><asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New 
>YorkCityarea
>
>
>Warning -- I just picked up a large customer that Focal turned off
>because they were doing VoIP termination on the Focal PRIs....
>
>Michael Young
>NetLogic
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BJ Weschke [mailto:bweschke at gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:49 PM
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New York
>Cityarea
>
>
> Focal / Broadwing
>
> www.broadwing.com
>
> ?
>
>On 4/27/05, Zeno Lee <zeno at streetsolutions.com> wrote:
>> I'm having a hard time finding CLECs in the New York City area who
>> provide ISDN PRI to connect my asterisk box via a Digium card.  Can
>> anyone recommend a CLEC in New York that provide voice/data lines.
>>
>> And yes I've tried to google CLEC "New York City".  The results are
>> worthless. _______________________________________________
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:27:03 -0500
>From: "Mojo Jojo" <mylist at lightwavetech.com>
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] More Kudos to Teliax
>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Message-ID: <005901c54bbb$4f682500$6b01a8c0 at tjrlptphp>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>	reply-type=original
>
>I have also been impressed so far with Teliax and David.
>
>I think we will be pushing most of our business their way if the quality 
>turns out to be as good as the support.
>
>So far, after going through 4 or 5 providers, Teliax has my vote for the 
>best (OK the only) support!
>
>
>Private Label Wholesale Internet Access!
>http://www.YourOwnISP.com
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Glenn Powers" <glenn at net127.com>
>To: <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:04 PM
>Subject: [Asterisk-biz] More Kudos to Teliax
>
>
>
>This time for David Aldworth, daldworth at teliax.com, answering his phone at
>midnight (east coast time) and resolving an urgent issue! Thanks!
>
>cheers,
>glenn
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 02:42:33 -0400
>From: "Alexander Lopez" <alex.lopez at opsys.com>
>Subject: Why? Are the CLEC's trying to keep people from using their
>	PRI's for	termination/origination these days? WAS: [Asterisk-biz]
>	CLECs	that provide ISDN PRI in the New YorkCityarea
>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Message-ID:
>	<E918F2FD95450648B7F8C957D92D52712150E7 at exmail.corp.opsys.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> They feel that they should protect the semi-monopoly that exist until
>this day. When I was starting out as an ISP bout 15 years ago selling
>Dialup, BellSouth would gladly sell me all the POTS lines I needed. At
>one time an ISP I knew of had three 100-pair cables coming into his
>Bedroom. He was lucky enough to live 1 block away from the CO.  (I never
>actually saw it but more than one person cliamed they did)  As the
>Dialup market grew the Telcos tried to tax the Dialup internet calls as
>long distance because the 'information' may be passed across county,
>state, and country borders. 
>
>I feel (opinion) that the Telcos, fell that they still own the Network
>and that they are losing terminaltion minutes into their networks from
>reprocosity agreements they have with other telcos and LD companies.
>
>You see in the Telco world, A long Distance call has three billable
>elements.
>
>Origination
>Transport
>Termination
>
>For an example, NOT REAL NUMBERS!!
>
>Lets say you cann from Miami (BellSouth) to LA (PacBel),your LD carrier
>is AT&T and your LD rate is .09 (nine cents).
>
>SouthernBell would get .03 for Originating the Call
>ATT would get .03 for transporting the call from Miami to LA
>Pacbel would get .03 for routing the call through their network and to
>the end point (Terminating)
>
>So there is a definate LOSS potential that VoIP introduces to the LD
>companies as we 'hop over' from Rate Center to rate center without being
>a telco.
>
><H1>
><offcenter>
><rant>
>
>I feel that the best thing that the telcos could do is go flat rate,
>REAL flat rate, not capped. They own the network already for the most
>part, the cost of billing, supporting the billing, and system to track
>billing, take a good chunk of the profits.
>
>Just imagine the amount of Data that a large telco needs to have in
>order to hear you complain and credit you money back.
>They need a database, call center, agents, etc. just to give people BACK
>money!!!  The cellular companies learned in the United States that if
>you make the service affordable to the masses then cloning a phone
>becomes an unessesary option because the trouble is not worth the
>benefit. (MAJOR organized fraud is the exception)
>
>Many on this list have stated that unless you follow the rules you are
>doomed to fail. I agree. However there is a window of oppertuity to 'get
>in on the ground floor' in regards to building a network.  My salutes to
>all that follow the rules and to those who 'think outside the box'.
>
></rant>
></offcenter>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mojo Jojo
>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:14 AM
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New
>YorkCityarea
>
>Why? Are the CLEC's trying to keep people from using their PRI's for
>termination/origination these days?
>
>
>Private Label Wholesale Internet Access!
>http://www.YourOwnISP.com
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Michael Young" <myoung at netlogic.net>
>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
><asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New 
>YorkCityarea
>
>
>Warning -- I just picked up a large customer that Focal turned off
>because they were doing VoIP termination on the Focal PRIs....
>
>Michael Young
>NetLogic
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BJ Weschke [mailto:bweschke at gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:49 PM
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] CLECs that provide ISDN PRI in the New York
>Cityarea
>
>
> Focal / Broadwing
>
> www.broadwing.com
>
> ?
>
>On 4/27/05, Zeno Lee <zeno at streetsolutions.com> wrote:
>> I'm having a hard time finding CLECs in the New York City area who
>> provide ISDN PRI to connect my asterisk box via a Digium card.  Can
>> anyone recommend a CLEC in New York that provide voice/data lines.
>>
>> And yes I've tried to google CLEC "New York City".  The results are
>> worthless. _______________________________________________
>> Asterisk-Biz mailing list
>> Asterisk-Biz at lists.digium.com
>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
>>
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