[Asterisk-biz] Re: Vonage Rep wasarrestedby theMexicanPGRlastnight.

[steve]

Hi:

They were Vonage employees according to the SCT people. I am trying to find
out their names and positions with Vonage.  

However, you are correct, they are always arresting people selling services
here in Mexico that are not part of the concession holders.


Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Anton Krall
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:35 PM
To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Vonage Rep wasarrestedby
theMexicanPGRlastnight.

"They paid lots of bribes to stay in business. The ones who made some
corrupt government official a silent partner in the business could then see
to it that new competitors were quickly dealt with."

Business as usual down here. :( 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Martes, 05 de Abril de 2005 10:40 p.m.
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Vonage Rep was arrestedby
theMexicanPGRlastnight.

Could it be that these 2 people were not really connected with vonage in any
official way? Maybe they were just charging people to get them set up with
vonage using a US address? I know of at least one outfit near the canadian
border that specializes in enabling canadians to get US satellite TV
accounts. That is in clear violation of Canadian law. I'm sure that if they
actually went into Canada and did this they would be arrested.

If this turns out to be the case it is just another routine arrest report. I
lived and worked in MX. There were always people whose enterprise focused on
trying to deprive the government of tax revenues. 
They paid lots of bribes to stay in business. The ones who made some corrupt
government official a silent partner in the business could then see to it
that new competitors were quickly dealt with.

steve wrote:

>I am not sure.  I know they have put a lot grey market people into jail but
>I haven't heard of any end users going to jail.   In Tijuana, they closed
>down 9 companies about 4 months ago.   Three of the companies had value
>added permits.   
>
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Alex Pui
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 6:32 PM
>To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Vonage Rep was arrested by 
>theMexicanPGRlastnight.
>
>Steve,
>
>If the operator is out of MX would the end users be arrested?
>
>Alex
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of steve
>Sent: April 6, 2005 9:14 AM
>To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Vonage Rep was arrested by the 
>MexicanPGRlastnight.
>
>Reason.  Operating in Mexico without a Local concession and using VOIP 
>for transporting traffic outside of Mexico without a Long Distance
concession.
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Anton Krall
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:45 PM
>To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Vonage Rep was arrested by the Mexican 
>PGRlastnight.
>
>The reason? 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of steve
>Sent: Martes, 05 de Abril de 2005 06:51 p.m.
>To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
>Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Vonage Rep was arrested by the Mexican PGR 
>lastnight.
>
>Hi Everyone:
>
>The Mexican PGR http://www.pgr.gob.mx/ arrested two people connected with
>Vonage here in Mexico.   The arrest team included members of SCT
>(http://portal.sct.gob.mx/SctPortal/) and Comission Federal de 
>telecomunicaciones (http://www.cofetel.gob.mx).
>
>
>Steve
>Wl Com
>steve at 17q.com
>+52 664 6343480
>
>  
>

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