[Asterisk-biz] Connect more Voip Provider to create a network

Tim Schroeder tim at ukvoice.co.uk
Fri Jun 11 01:40:19 MST 2004


I've been watching this list with interest for a while now.  I haven't
actually implemented Asterisk yet but am very interested in doing so if it
means relatively simple interconnectivity with other call
terminators/originators without having to go through Arbinet or the other
large "clearing houses".  I run a small UK-based VoIP LCR provider with
plenty of UK termination capability with several UK carriers and good rates
to UK landlines and mobiles.  It's all Cisco kit with a good infrastructure
behind it; i.e. H.323 gatekeepers, Radius authentication & accounting
servers, network management, real-time call status & monitoring, fraud
prevention, etc.

What I need is more traffic to UK & European destinations, and if Asterisk
can facilitate that by allowing me to peer with other Asterisk systems then
I'm in a good position to do that.  So I would be very interested in
discussing with interested parties the development of call settlement/prefix
exchanging as has been mentioned in this thread.

Also if anyone is interested in discussing a 1-to-1 exchange agreement with
me with or without Asterisk please contact me through this list or email me
at tim at ukvoice.co.uk.  I can offer termination at the following rates:
(negotiable depending on volume)

UK Landlines:	2.3/1.5/1.1  (peak/offpeak/weekend)
UK Mobile:		23/23/15	 (peak/offpeak/weekend)
Western Europe:   from 2.2 to 2.75    (all times)
(France, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Denmark,
Ireland, Austria, Belgium)

This is estimated pricing on a sampling of destinations, and should not be
considered a binding offer.  All rates US$ cents per minute, 1 cent min
charge, no minimum duration or call setup charge.

Best regards,

Tim Schroeder
UK Voice Ltd


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-admin at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of William Suffill
Sent: 11 June 2004 02:48
To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Connect more Voip Provider to create a
network


Been considering this myself as well. I don't actually terminate calls
but use a number of termination providers to route my calls currently
since it's the most cost effective.

Was thinking of using Enum to store the iax2 peers to use for each call
region based on a LCR assuming the connection was reliable enough.

I brought this up with a few people and they agreed networking with
others is the best way to expand coverage but compensation is a sticking
point and problem.

Only way we came up with was to require a deposit from everyone involved
similar to prepaid iax2 termination. And their balance would go up the
more calls they terminate for members and down for those others
terminate for them.

On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 21:33, John Todd wrote:
> At 8:14 PM +0200 on 6/10/04, Dimitri Bellini wrote:
> >Dear ALL
> >	why we cant made a sort of network througt Voip Provider from
> >all over the
> >world to have nice price in local termination?
> >Please say some considaration about it.
> >Thanks in advance
> >Dimitri
>
> This is a good idea, and others have suggested it before.  Nobody has
> implemented it.
>
> Please provide:
>
>   1) the protocol for route exchange (what numeric prefixes are you
> offering?  how many paths?  how much does each cost?  what codecs do
> you support?  encryption?  etc.)
>
>   2) the method by which you wish to have automated compensation for
> gateway usage
>
> (1) is always required, (2) is not if you want to offer free
> termination (but I don't think that's what you want.  Nothing exists
> at this point that does (1), and the only models I have seen that
> handle (2) are extremely complex and difficult to implement.  Arbinet
> is a nice answer, but how about something that can be established
> ad-hoc, without a "middleman"?  (PS: Does Arbinet collect payment for
> "free" calls?  <cough>)
>
> JT
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