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<td class="content-excerpt-pattern-container mobile-resize-text " style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 0 24px"> <p class="diff-context-placeholder" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">...</p>
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<li>Infrastructure
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>GIT!
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>George: really, just do it.</li>
<li>Darren: Stash integration with JIRA is nice.
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>but it doesn't bundle notifications</li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Will we do pull requests?
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Only if it's the only mechanism. Multiple mechanisms are hard.</li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Can we make it easier for contributors?</li>
<li>Do we do the Linus model for merging?
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Paul: is it a developer's job to merge?</li>
<li>Sean: not a problem for merging between branches</li>
<li>Matt F: It isn't free. There is work involved.</li>
<li>Downside of open stack approach: lots of moving parts
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Leif: you can pick a subset of those parts</li>
</ul> </li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Action: finish evaluation<br /> <br /> </li>
</ul> </li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Testsuite
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Dependencies are the hardest part. Debian packagers:
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>attest doesn't work (but do we care?)</li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Paul: can we name the test suite?</li>
<li>George: trying to get all of the tests to run usually blows up. The documentation is lacking.</li>
<li>Torey: versioning of the test suite?
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Paul: I have a solution to that. It's radical. Remove the tests from the test suite (and put them somewhere else).</li>
<li>Version the 'stock' test suite libraries</li>
<li>Action: determine what it would take to do that as we move to git</li>
<li>Have test suite in docker. Community: provider docker config</li>
</ul> </li>
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</ul> <h2 id="AstriDevCon2014-ApplicationServer(11:20am-12:??pm)" class="diff-block-target diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; font-size: 20px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 30px; margin: 40px 0 0 0"> <span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-0" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">Application Server (11:20am-12:</span> </h2> <p class="diff-context-placeholder" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">...</p> <h2 id="AstriDevCon2014-ApplicationServer(11:20am-12:??pm)" class="diff-block-target diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; font-size: 20px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 30px; margin: 40px 0 0 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">??pm</span><span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-1" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">)</span> </h2>
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<li>Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>George: configuration
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>"New" configuration - sorcery/config framework
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Push model of configuration - ARI</li>
</ul> </li>
<li>"Old" configuration - (voicemail.conf, sip.conf, users.conf)
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Update static files, then do a reload</li>
<li>Preferably preserve old mechanism in some fashion</li>
</ul> </li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Motivation on deprecating it
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>There is no one API. This makes it difficult for versioning. A change to any one makes versioning challenging.</li>
<li>If we don't remove something, ARI may make things more painful.</li>
<li>AMI/AGI not sufficient by itself; if ARI is sufficient, that'd be nice</li>
<li>Can we at least get to the point where ARI is the future?</li>
<li>Paul: if multi-interfaces are the problem, why can't AMI/ARI be condensed?
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Example: AMI/ARI have their own event systems</li>
<li>Let AMI use the ARI web socket for its events
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Would have to solve semantic issues between AMI/ARI event streams</li>
</ul> </li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Do we want ARI to replace AMI (take its role)?
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Should ARI become a call control protocol?</li>
<li>Lenz: till lots of old stuff in the field. Doing away with all of it will not be easy. A change to ARI will not happen tomorrow unless you control the deployment.</li>
<li>Ben: can't just pull it. Just don't want to keep enhancing it.</li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Example: Security events
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Should they be in ARI?</li>
<li>George: we probably do need to have the distinction.</li>
<li>Nir: vast majority of community doesn't understand ARI. It needs to be easier in order to replace AMI.</li>
<li>Jared: adoption may be slow since it doesn't do everything AMI does.</li>
<li>Action: -dev/-users list: what are using AMI for that we can't use ARI for?</li>
<li>Leif: we're in a transition, moving from dialplan model to external control model. Probably need external application to be built for us to move completely away from AMI/AGI.</li>
<li>Paul: take away apps, and whatever is in the core is what we should care about</li>
<li>Lenz: some things are harder in ARI
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>TTS is actually harder (I can use an AGI script for that)</li>
<li>Playlists</li>
</ul> </li>
<li>Should we use the dialplan at all?
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>The idea is: ARI should not use the dialplan applications at all</li>
</ul> </li>
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<li>ARI Enhancements
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">
<li>Play media from remote sources</li>
<li>TTS/ASR</li>
</ul> </li>
<li> <span style="line-height: 1.4285715;">What things does ARI not do?</span> <br />
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">
<li>Transfers</li>
</ul> </li>
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