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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you George. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That’s good advice on the realtime mode.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I can have them change this so realtime mode later this week.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Customer’s taskprocessor list is very large. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are a large number of entries from core show taskprocessors data<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The are one a few that are showing the Max Depth of 10 or more. Only including those and the stasis/pool<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Processor Processed In Queue Max Depth Low water High water<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">pjsip/pool-control 501599 0 89 450 500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">stasis/m:cache_pattern:0/endpoint:all-000015f0 383224 0 21 450 500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">stasis/m:devicestate:all-00000002 233836 0 28 450 500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">stasis/m:manager:core-00000006 4649316 0 69 2700 3000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">stasis/pool 11670 0 2 450 500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">stasis/pool-control 23505 0 75 450 500<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5922 taskprocessors<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We do use AMI for a significant amount of communication (action/events).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Might this be a singleton that could explain the high use for a single asterisk process id?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">NOTE: working on migrating to ARI which I know will help in the call control.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> asterisk-users <asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>George Joseph<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Large system seeing single CPU core spiking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 9:19 AM Dan Cropp <<a href="mailto:dan@amtelco.com">dan@amtelco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank you George.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It is using local file based configuration files.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, that's good at least. It eliminates the database layer which can be troublesome in virtualized environments, especially if a SAN and/or a remote database server is used.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Other factors.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We run Asterisk in realtime mode to allow it to run as fast as possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Running at "realtime" level is usually NOT a good thing for Asterisk and rarely needed when there are adequate resources. Let's say you have a local DNS resolver running. If the system is stressed, Asterisk could actually starve the
resolver of resources, which then causes Asterisk to back up waiting for DNS resolution to complete. We've seen this happen when using a database backend for configuration. Someone thinks "I'll just give Asterisk more resources" forgetting that Asterisk
needs the database engine to run.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I just learned customer upgraded to 24 CPU cores. Although, I’m not sure they actually assigned 24 physical cores to this machine or just increasing Hyper-V values.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How is this VM's priority versus other VMs on the same cluster? Just because it has 24 threads doesn't mean it's got 24 threads dedicated. Does using a realtime priority in the VM trickle down to Hyper-V's hypervisor's resource management
algorithms?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I will monitor for additional information and see if the customer will allow me to capture a coredump when problems are happening.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Waiting for them to report an incident.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here is a small sample of the system right now (24 cores), to the best of my knowledge it’s running fine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">top -p 1509 -n 1 -H -b<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">top - 15:06:32 up 9:06, 2 users, load average: 6.02, 5.59, 5.26<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Threads: 1709 total, 8 running, 1701 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">%Cpu(s): 3.1 us, 2.5 sy, 0.0 ni, 94.3 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si, 0.0 st<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">KiB Mem : 32143072 total, 29750072 free, 1016132 used, 1376868 buff/cache<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">KiB Swap: 8388604 total, 8388604 free, 0 used. 30697060 avail Mem<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> 1830 root -11 0 13.741g 493680 28828 R 99.9 1.5 174:13.39 asterisk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">46605 root -11 0 13.741g 493680 28828 S 9.5 1.5 0:30.06 asterisk<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> 2295 root -11 0 13.741g 493680 28828 S 4.8 1.5 12:25.50 asterisk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There's definitely one thread that's pegging a CPU. If that thread is one of the few "singleton" threads, that can be an issue. What does "core show taskprocessors" indicate? Are there any that are hitting their limits?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> asterisk-users <<a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>George Joseph<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 14, 2021 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion <<a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Large system seeing single CPU core spiking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 8:07 AM Dan Cropp <<a href="mailto:dan@amtelco.com" target="_blank">dan@amtelco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am working with a very large customer running Asterisk with PJSIP. Systems total channels have been over 2500 (which includes hundreds of local channels and ConfBridges) when
the issues occur.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It’s running on a Hyper-V VM with 12 CPU cores.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Things work fine most of the time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">They periodically see 10-30 minute periods where audio starts sounding like jitter buffer type issues. Can literally have someone spelling their name and a ConfBridge recording
of it shows the audio is missing a letter or two.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The odd part is another system (not running Asterisk) was handling these calls previously. The overall network has plenty of bandwidth (as evidenced by another system able to handle
the call volume)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">One area that has perplexed us is when using htop, we see a single CPU core will spike to 100%. Which core does keep changing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Asterisk is definitely the process using the vast majority of the CPU cycles.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We recently found a setting on Hyper-V networking SR-IOV which improved things. Prior to changing this setting, we were seeing SIP OPTIONS packets/responses would occasionally
take more than 3 seconds causing devices to drop and come back online.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We have configured a similar system running at Amazon handling far more traffic and can’t get the single CPU core to spike. Only small static pops during the calls.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The sheer scale of the system is making it hard to diagnose the problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any thoughts on how to diagnose what is causing the single CPU core to spike?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any thoughts on how to diagnose the problem?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any other thoughts/comments?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The first thing I'd do is see where the CPU is spending time: userspace, system, nice, wait, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is it actually the asterisk process consuming the CPU?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is Asterisk running with local file-based configs, local database, remote database, etc?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If call quality is really bad already and your customer agrees, you could try the following the next time it happens...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> 1. Run "top -p `pidof asterisk` -n 1 -H -b" to get a list of all of Asterisk's threads and their CPU utilization.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> 2. Run ast_coredumper with the --RUNNING option. This will pause Asterisk while the dump is being generated!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">That _may_ give you an idea of where to look.<o:p></o:p></p>
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