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      My, how embarrassing.  I of course meant that as a personal
      message to Don.  But if anyone else knows the answer, I'm
      interested! lol<br>
      <br>
      Cheers,<br>
      <br>
      j<br>
      <br>
      On 03/18/2015 10:02 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:<br>
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        Hey Don,<br>
        <br>
        How are you?  I may be heading your way in the next month or
        so.  Have to meet with a guy in Eden Prairie, and stop off at my
        brother/sisterm-in-law's as well.<br>
        <br>
        Got a question for you - with TBCT, who pays for the call once
        it is transferred?  Still me as the owner of the trunk?<br>
        <br>
        Lets say I take a call that was dialled locally (caller believes
        this is "free"), and I do a TBCT to an international
        destination, and they stay on the line for ten minutes.  Who
        gets the bill?<br>
        <br>
        Cheers,<br>
        <br>
        j<br>
        <br>
        On 03/18/2015 09:19 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dk@donkelly.biz">dk@donkelly.biz</a>
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              depends on what you mean by “not involving the service
              provider.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If

              you are literally forwarding calls that come in on the PRI
              back out on the PRI, the most efficient way is with Two
              B-Channel Transfer (TBCT). Check it out in the wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You

              need to make sure your carrier supports the feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">When

              you want to do a “transfer,” you have an incoming call
              alerting or answered, you initiate an outgoing call (using
              the originating ANI). You initiate the TBCT and the
              CARRIER completes the transfer, disconnecting both of your
              B channels. The carrier will later notify you when the
              transferred call is done, but I don’t think Asterisk
              handles this directly. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Note

              that at least one of the calls must be answered when you
              initiate the transfer. If you are doing “unattended”
              transfer, you will, typically, leave the incoming call
              alerting until the outbound call answers, then complete
              the transfer. An “attended” transfer would generally
              answer the incoming call, play a message, do some IVR
              doodling, or chat with an agent then initiate the
              transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              fun<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              --Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
              [<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rizwan H Qureshi<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:16 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
              Discussion<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] PRI Callerid
              Passthrough<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks AJ and David,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">We were actually using GSM gateways
                by setting busy forward number on the SIMs and just
                giving busy signal on every incoming call, telco took
                care of the forwarding and the line was free within
                seconds. Now we need to scale up the setup but GSM
                gateways a very very expensive if we want to scale upto
                a 1000 DIDs, which means thousand SIMs and a
                gateway/gateways big enough.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:43 PM, A J
                Stiles <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:asterisk_list@earthshod.co.uk"
                  target="_blank">asterisk_list@earthshod.co.uk</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On Wednesday 18 Mar 2015, Rizwan H
                Qureshi wrote:<br>
                > Hi All,<br>
                > I have to forward incoming call on PRI back out to
                PRI but I need the<br>
                > original Callerid to passthrough. Is it possible
                with DAHDI PRI cards<br>
                > without involving the service provider?<br>
                ><br>
                > Thanks<br>
                <br>
                It depends who your service provider is!<br>
                <br>
                Any PRI card can send the commands down the D-channel to
                set any caller ID you<br>
                like, but it's still up to the telco whether or not they
                will honour your<br>
                request.  I know the hard way that BT will only let you
                identify with a number<br>
                you're entitled to use.<br>
                <br>
                Also, remember if you have a call coming in on a PRI
                line and going out on<br>
                another PRI line, that's eating two of your thirty lines
                .....<br>
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                  <span class="hoenzb">--</span><br>
                  <span class="hoenzb">AJS</span><br>
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                    asterisk1list at earthshod dot co dot uk .</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Best
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Rizwan

                      H Qureshi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">V:
                      +971 (0) 528272154<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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