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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If you have no analog lines,
Amazon/Rackspace/... will probably beat your local ISP on
bandwidth to your SIP/IAX carrier.<br>
<br>
If your users are not in the same building as your in-house hosted
Asterisk, Amazon might have a lot better connectivity with your
users.<br>
<br>
You certainly have a lot more flexibility in adding power to your
setup at an Amazon.<br>
<br>
I guess that one can decide what are the critical points that need
to be tested (call volume, call quality, user connectivity) and
devise a test setup.<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
<br>
On 22/11/2013 1:18 PM, Todd R. wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I would have said the same thing a while back but,
I can't ignore the fact that there have been what seems to be
many "Virtualization" success stories.
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<div>The idea that Asterisk just likes to be on it's own
dedicated hardware has always caused me to prefer dedicated
hardware.</div>
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<div>But, is the possibility of a single piece of hardware
failing "better" than something that will likely never just
flat out die?</div>
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<div>I know there are high availability solutions out there and
it's not that I don't have backups and disaster recovery plans
in place.</div>
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<div>I just want to make things far better regarding redundancy,
recovery and scalability and virtualization is hard to beat
when you start talking about these things.</div>
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<div>There are definitely people/companies using virtualized
Asterisk solutions successfully, so I feel like it can be
done.</div>
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<div>Asterisk has come a long way since I first starting messing
with Asterisk and so has Asterisk itself.</div>
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<div>So, I am trying to determine what is bad, what to look out
for in terms of virtualizing. If it's still as bad of an idea
as it was say 5 years ago, then I need to understand why and
if there is a work around.</div>
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<div>At this point, the benefits of virtualizing my Asterisk
boxes are too many to count. So, if I can't find any concrete
reasons to NOT do this beyond "That's a bad idea" then I am
going to give it a go. If I do, I am looking for any advice
good or bad from those that have gone down this road
successfully or with miserable failure.</div>
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<div>My opinion all along has been Asterisk + Virtualization +
Real Live Production Use = BAD IDEA!</div>
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<div>Now, I am trying to figure out if that's just the opinion
of an old man (sort of old) who just doesn't want to accept
that virtualization if a better way (in terms of Asterisk).</div>
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<div>So, I am hoping for people to tell me why Amazon AWS
specifically is a good or bad idea with as much detail as
possible.</div>
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<div>Thanks!<br>
<br>
<div>> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tjrlist@live.com">tjrlist@live.com</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Amazon, Asterisk and
reliability beyond a hobby system?<br>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:04:44 -0500<br>
> From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com">covici@ccs.covici.com</a><br>
> <br>
> I would thinktwice about Amazon -- and virtual in
general is not a good<br>
> idea for this sort of thing. I have seen messages about
bad results<br>
> with amazon specifically.<br>
> <br>
> Todd R. <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tjrlist@live.com"><tjrlist@live.com></a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Just checking one more time to see if anyone has
an opinion on this. I am primarily interested in using a
cloud type setup such as Amazon AWS for the redundancy, easy
backup and recovery options. It's not about price but the
idea that it will be very hard for a single piece of
hardware to ruin my day.<br>
> > <br>
> > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tjrlist@live.com">tjrlist@live.com</a><br>
> > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a><br>
> > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:33:38 -0600<br>
> > Subject: [asterisk-users] Amazon, Asterisk and
reliability beyond a hobby system?<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Took me a while but I have finally embraced cloud
computing and all the benefits.<br>
> > The only thing I have yet to feel comfortable
about putting in the cloud is real live Asterisk boxes to be
used in production. I know it's being done because as far as
I know Twilio is using Amazon for their Asterisk boxes.<br>
> > I have read all the fun articles on building hobby
type systems and that's all great.<br>
> > What I really need to hear is from those that have
deployed Asterisk in Amazon or Digital Ocean and how many
simultaneous calls they are pushing through it and what the
call quality and reliability has been.<br>
> > Right now I am still using dedicated hardware but
I could become much more redundant and scale much faster
using Amazon or Digital Ocean.<br>
> > Thanks in advance for any information from those
that have already been down this road... <br>
> > <br>
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