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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The “Way to make money” is to help folks use the “open source” items in the most efficient manner and to provide “extra value” along the way. Just because you can download Asterisk for “free” doesn’t make it worthless or valuable; it’s what you can do to it (or can’t) that makes it that way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Kelly<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet "normalization"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Christian, your signature says you’re a “VoIP and Telephony Consultant.” That implies that your clients pay you for the value you add personally providing services to them. Open source software doesn’t download itself and configure itself appropriately all by itself—there are lots of people needing your assistance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Don</span><span lang=EN style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com]">[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>C. Savinovich<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet "normalization"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>If I can't make money off it, I might as well give it for free.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>That's the problem! You can not make money off anything you write because there is an open source version for anything you might want to come up with!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Do we all have to have Mark Zuckerberg's genious to make it in this market?... what about an opportunity for the rest of us, normal developers?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Christian Savinovich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>VoIP & Telephony Consultant</span></b></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=replyBlockquote><div id=wmQuoteWrapper><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet "normalization"<br>From: Tzafrir Cohen <<a href="mailto:tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com">tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com</a>><br>Date: Wed, March 28, 2012 12:57 pm<br>To: <a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a><br><br>On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 07:27:03AM -0700, C. Savinovich wrote:<br>> I really don't think it is fair for anyone to give out such work for<br>> free. Unfortunately, many people are used to asking for free software<br>> solutions for all their problems. Whatever happened to paying for<br>> someone else's time and effort?<br><br>If I can't make money off it, I might as well give it for free. Limiting<br>access to the information has its costs as well. If the information is<br>publiclly available, I may actually get some good publicity and some<br>improvements from others. Not much. But then again it's better than the<br>0 money I would have gotten in the hypothetical case.<br><br>If you can make money off of it, then sure, go ahead.<br><br>-- <br>Tzafrir Cohen<br>icq#16849755 jabber:<a href="mailto:tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com">tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com</a><br>+972-50-7952406 <a href="mailto:tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com">mailto:tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com</a><br><a href="http://www.xorcom.com">http://www.xorcom.com</a> iax:guest@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir<br><br>--<br>_____________________________________________________________________<br>-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br>New to Asterisk? 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