<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>exactly my other concern - can just drop sip card in and put on the net - would also have to get an sbc - which would be more than an ATA.</div><div>considering just using a cisco router (low end XM) and throwing a high density voice card in it<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:48 PM, John Novack <<a href="mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org">jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
Agreed NEC isn't cheap. Their products are generally pretty good and
robust though. I have an earlier one still working for 18 years and
counting<br>
Of course, when one considers the asterisk machine, configuration time,
firewall and the rise in sip hacking sip trunking can easily turn into
a PITA.<br>
<br>
John Novack<br>
<br>
<br>
Robert-iPhone wrote:
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<div>considering providing the sip trunking nyself via asterisk.</div>
<div>the sip trunking looks expensive - card and licenses from nec.</div>
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<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
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On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Novack <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org"><a href="mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org">jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org</a></a>>
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<div>that system can also handle IP trunks, though the equipment
might not
be available to you or outside your budget window<br>
<br>
How does this relate to Asterisk, or does it?<br>
<br>
John Novack<br>
<br>
<br>
Robert Huddleston wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’ll
have
to look at that then – as I thought the card actually said “Ground
Start” on it.. I may have missed or it was scratched off the word loop
start<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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John Novack [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org"><a href="mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org">mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org</a></a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Huddleston<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP
Gateway<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The SV8100 can do either ground or loop<br>
Assuming you can access the system it can easily be changed.<br>
<br>
Programming manual here:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100"><a href="http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100">http://www.telecomcepts.com/downloads/SV8100/SV8100</a></a>
Programming Manual_1.pdf<br>
<br>
the original installer may have locked it down, but it CAN be changed.<br>
<br>
John Novack<br>
<br>
<br>
Robert Huddleston wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ya –
customer is on a nice NEC SV8100.. The card is a ground start card..
they are currently being fed by a Cisco IAD2431 w/ RJ-21 punchdown
cross-connect.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">But
that
IAD2431 uses T1/E1 as WAN.. They are doing away with the T1 and want to
use Ethernet for wan…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So
IAD2431 would be great – but if it only allows T1/E1 for WAN – I’m shot.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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John Novack [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org"><a href="mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org">mailto:jnovack@stromberg-carlson.org</a></a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Robert Huddleston<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Ground Start ATA / VOIP
Gateway</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Robert Huddleston wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Anyone have recommendations for a gateway /
ATA
for business that can do GroundStart? Preferably with an rj-21 – but
okay if not..<o:p></o:p></p>
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I don't know of any ATA that will do GS<br>
An RJ-21 is the designation for a 66 block with 25 pair connector on
the side<br>
GS is available with many channel banks though a T1 card and channel
bank might be overkill for your application.<br>
Is this to go into a "legacy" switch?<br>
Most have line cards that can be easily switched to Loop <br>
<br>
Is this in the US, or ???<br>
John Novack<br>
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