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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma">Cool topic!</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma">Our company (generationD) developed some CID scripts for free use, and we would be interested in building and hosting this service.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma">On the spec side, how do we avoid users claiming numbers belonging to others? (Could be an admin nightmare)</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma">Do we allow number ranges?</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma">Do we require caching, or limit lookups? (If not then this can get real expensive to host real fast)</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma">Just some ideas...</font></div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Skyler [skchopperguy@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Asterisk Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi all,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> Let’s get some feedback going here and see if there is any general support in a user-driven CNAM concept.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Assuming that your landline/mobile outbound provider does not push caller-name + number for you with your calling plan. Would you pay $1/yr to have the access
to update your own personal CNAM info in a database that you can trust to be correct? One that 1000’s or even 100,000’s of other voip/pbx owners will use?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">S.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Novack<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just checked several of my numbers and several others known to me, it really isn't much better<br>
2 of them returned names other than mine, and all had the wrong city, though at least the state was correct.<br>
All but one also had the wrong carrier.<br>
I fear these databases are are so full of errors that they are mostly worthless. <br>
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John Novack<br>
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Pascal Bruno wrote: </p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal">If you can use curl, and can do some text parsing and know regular expressions, you may be able to use this free CNAM service:
<a href="http://www.numberguru.com/" target="_blank">http://www.numberguru.com/</a> and integrate into your system. This one appears to have a more complete database. When I tried my number, I have gotten my full name, but when I use the FreeCNAM project
below, I just get Florida.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Michael R. Wally <<a href="mailto:michael.r.wally@gmail.com">michael.r.wally@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I've been toying around with the idea of starting some kind of 'Open CNAM' project to destroy the current money hustle BS that dominates this industry. The ever-growing FreeCNAM database may be a good starting point for such a project.<br>
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I would also like to use Bitcoin (BTC) as the micropayment solution for user-requested updates. Some nominal fee.<br>
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If anyone wants to get involved, contact me. </p>
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On 06/01/2011 07:51 AM, Skyler wrote:</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
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The junk in CNAM databases like "FLORIDA", "ONTARIO" etc. is IMO the<br>
carrier's way to isolate their users and another excuse to charge more money<br>
for 'the better plan'. In the end, it's the carrier that inputs the info so<br>
if it shows "FLORIDA" with one database I can't see how any other database<br>
would be different as the carrier is the only one that controls the outbound<br>
CID info. Calling me from POTS to snatch the CID will result in the same.<br>
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...unless there were a user friendly CNAM service, where info could be<br>
updated by the end-user and queried freely by voip providers. I would update<br>
my cellular numbers for sure and know at least a dozen people that would do<br>
the same. Everyone is going VoIP so why not?<br>
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Talking about 'where's the money or angle'... here is one, vanity. Charge<br>
$1/yr to a user per DID, if I don't renew then delete it and re-query the<br>
original carrier.<br>
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