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a Rack of load balanced Asterisk Servers with some customized billing system with a respectable centralized database like MsSQL or Oracle ..External E1 or T1 Gateways instead of TDM cards.. with load balancing?? as the whole operation is COPPER WEIRES .. can't that setup work for them?<div>I'm asking as i'm looking for a similar setup just trying to set it up virtually before we go live.</div><div>Regards<br><br>-- Tarek Sawah
Integrated Digital Systems
CCNA, MCSE, RHCE, VoIP USA: +1 347 562 2308
<br><br><br><br>> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:49:12 -0400<br>> From: joe@ngn-networks.com<br>> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com; caryf@usawide.net<br>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Big time system<br>> <br>> Cary-<br>> <br>> Asterisk may carry you a way down this road, but in the end, it's not, <br>> and was never designed to be a class 5 telecom switch. There are people <br>> working on a carrier grade implementation that may or may not be fully <br>> class 5, but I don't know what the status is on that. I haven't gotten <br>> an answer from Digium on that lately.<br>> <br>> What you're looking for are local gateways that backhaul to a central <br>> switch site with equipment that can support traffic from multiple rate <br>> centers in multiple LATAs. This gets complicated quickly, especially if <br>> your rate centers are spread across multiple states.<br>> <br>> You'll want some type of Multiservice Access Platform (MSAP). Zhone <br>> makes the MALC and their newer MXK box. Adtran has the TA-5000 shelf. <br>> Neither are what you'd call cheap. Both will provide T1 access, DSL, <br>> SDSL, VDSL, bonded, and even ethernet access to the customer over a <br>> variety of transport options, including copper pairs.<br>> <br>> The Zhone box already has SIP backhaul for voice traffic, and the Adtran <br>> shelf should have it soon. Today the Adtran box has GR303 backhaul for <br>> voice.<br>> <br>> All that said, what you're proposing indicates to me that you're likely <br>> to need to establish CLEC certification in whatever states you'll be <br>> operating. That in itself is not a short process. It can take anywhere <br>> from 90 days to a year depending on the state, and expect to spend from <br>> $10K up on legal costs per state alone. Insurance, financial health, and <br>> other requirements vary by state as well.<br>> <br>> The ILECs generally won't even talk to you about establishing colo and <br>> gaining access to the copper loops until you get the CLEC certificate. <br>> Generally the process starts by getting the certificate, then <br>> negotiating an ICA, then trunking services, then colo. Different <br>> carriers will be easier to work with than others, but they are all a <br>> pain. AT&T requires you to have a $10M general liability policy in place <br>> before you can even submit a request for a space availability report.<br>> <br>> All this is not to say it can't be done, but to point out that it's a <br>> very difficult process to negotiate, even when you have done it several <br>> times. Without experience it can be close to impossible. I'd suggest <br>> getting a good telecom/clec consultant and a good telecom lawyer (I know <br>> a few) involved early in the process, or you'll end up spending ALOT of <br>> money.<br>> <br>> Hit me off-list and I can give you more info.<br>> <br>> Joe<br>> <br>> <br>> On 6/24/2010 11:24 PM, Cary Fitch wrote:<br>> > We are an asterisk user... small time system 50-100 users or so.<br>> ><br>> > But, we have an opportunity to get into a big time telecom activity.<br>> ><br>> > It would have 2000 to 30,000 user lines per city, and we would like to have<br>> > those brought back to a central location for control and because transport<br>> > can be more economical than remote site rentals, maintenance and personnel.<br>> ><br>> > We could take the local lines into concentrators (TNTs or equivalent) and<br>> > bring back IP to a central site, or put servers at the remote cities.<br>> ><br>> > Our object is to serve as a "central office switch" for subscribers on<br>> > standard telco service loops.<br>> ><br>> > This isn't a "How many lines can I handle using a Belchfire 2600 processor?"<br>> > type question but a request for pointers to big time systems. There would<br>> > be no IP path to the end user, "just" copper.<br>> ><br>> > Thank you<br>> > Cary Fitch<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> _____________________________________________________________________<br>> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --<br>> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:<br>> http://www.asterisk.org/hello<br>> <br>> asterisk-users mailing list<br>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users<br></div> <br /><hr />The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. <a href='http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4' target='_new'>Get busy.</a></body>
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