<div dir="ltr">I agree, No manager gets fired even if a Cisco Call Manager goes south.<br>that's not the case with Asterisk.<br>With limited experience that i have with both, i hit more bugs using Asterisk than a CCM, but this is not relevant to your final answer.<br>
If you can afford CCM, and you can live with less flexibility and features, i would choose Cisco.<br>If you prefer to have cheaper solution and more features and flexibility, Asterisk is good.<br>With Cisco, everything is cisco, handsets are designed for Cisco, it connects to Exchange much more in depth than even microsoft response point.<br>
unlike Asterisk, unfortunately exchange integration is not something you may get in close future and that can be a deal breaker for some companies, but you dont pay per seat license.<br>and so on. <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Senad Jordanovic <<a href="mailto:senad@bicom.us">senad@bicom.us</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">T G wrote:<br>
> I'm a CCIE and CCVP. I have worked in the Cisco TSBU on both CCM and<br>
> Telepresence systems I have two IP patents for the VoiP Lite protocols<br>
> and have been designing and building OSS IPBXs for companies including<br>
> Google going back to 2001.<br>
><br>
> I'm not mentioning any of that to be jerk I mentioned it to say I'm as<br>
> qualified as anyone to to compare the CCM and OSS servers.<br>
><br>
> The only fair way to compare the two is a list of weights features, for<br>
> example if cost is your biggest feature then OSS is better, if support<br>
> is your biggest feature than Cisco wins.<br>
><br>
> When a customer is comparing the costly (TCO) and best supported systems<br>
> in the world with hundreds of thousands installed systems for the large<br>
> global companies on the planted backed by 54,000 employees and over $25b<br>
> in the bank vs, a FREE system with one layer of support maybe two layers<br>
> of support, the features don't even come in the evaluation in my opinion.<br>
><br>
> I once asked a manager why did you buy the CCM and he said no one ever<br>
> got fired for buying Cisco if anything wrong, If push the OSS and it<br>
> goes I could loose my job.<br>
><br>
> I would get a list of the important features, because there is no answer<br>
> to your question of which is better.<br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
</div>What you mentioned above is mostly correct presuming you are referencing<br>
OSS being provided by an organisation with limited resources and perhaps<br>
limited experience in OS.<br>
<br>
Spin that into a perspective of a well organised company harvesting full<br>
potential of OS, adding its own proprietary software level allowing it<br>
to offer value products and EXCELLENT support, then I will strongly<br>
disagree with you.<br>
<br>
In particular where customer solution isn't just a solution, but rather<br>
its products and people becomes your business's communications partner.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Senad<br>
<a href="http://www.bicomsystems.com" target="_blank">www.bicomsystems.com</a><br>
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