On 9/17/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jim Canfield</b> <<a href="mailto:jcanfield@tshmail.com">jcanfield@tshmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<tt>Greetings,<br>
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Last week I began researching Asterisk for the first time. I did what
most noobs would do; downloaded an image that seemed simple and
straightforward and had some credibility (*now). I also downloaded the
TFOT version 1 as a guide. <br>
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As questions arose, I tossed a few out in #asterisckNOW channel..and
found it to be a ghost town. Only later did i start to ask a few
quesions in #asterisk...my biggest mistake was mentioning *now and I
was quickly marked as the GUI idiot. Not entirely untrue at this point
but not helpful for someone who is getting started.</tt></div></blockquote><div><br>You started in asteriskNOW, which was the right place. No one was there, so you decided to go to asterisk and got upset that no one would answer your questions regarding asteriskNOW.
<br><br>My guess is that there was no one there that had any experience with asteriskNOW, if there was, they would have been on asteriskNOW as well.<br><br>What you will find is that asking gui questions in asterisk is about like asking about the New York Giants in a New York Jets forums. They are both NFL teams and both from New York. However, they both have their own fan base and not too many people are fans of both and neither one will help you with information regarding the other.
<br><br>I may know Asterisk, and may try to help you, but when you start talking the gui's I won't be able to help much. Not because I'm ignoring you, but because I don't know the gui's. I know the cli and have no use in learning the gui.
<br><br>There is a asterisk-now and asterisk-gui mailing list. Both are low volume compared to this. There is also some forums for asteriskNOW located at <a href="http://forums.digium.com">forums.digium.com</a>. You may want to give the forums a try.
<br><br>asteriskNOW may be suffering from the chicken and egg concept. There aren't enough people using it, so there aren't enough people answering questions. There aren't enough people answering questions because there aren't enough people using it.
<br><br>Since asteriskNOW is based on 1.4, it could be that people are in a wait and see period. There are a lot of people, myself included, that haven't switched to 1.4. I heavily use the chan_sccp project, and until things stabilize enough on
1.4 so that chan_sccp can stabilize on 1.4, I can't switch.<br><br>I'm sure over the next 6 to 12 months more people will be moving to 1.4, and because of that, we'll see more activity with asteriskNOW. The only way it'll happen faster is if Digium hires Microsoft's marketing people to convince everyone that everyone else is using
1.4 and they should switch before getting left behind. Let's face it, you don't want to be the last person left running an outdated piece of software (for the record, I still use Windows 2000 and XP, and only have Vista on a test machine, so that marketing doesn't always work).
<br><br>Just hang in there and you may be one of the first pioneers using asteriskNOW, while the rest of us dinosaurs still use the cli :-)<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Here are my first impressions:</tt><br>
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<li><tt>The Devs have spent a LOT of time on *now and seem to be
doing a fantastic job.</tt></li>
<li><tt>*now is not just a GUI...it's a complete base/reference
system - I like that the MOST.</tt></li>
<li><tt>*now is a great starting point for someone new (Me).</tt></li>
<li><tt>*now needs documentation! I know it's in beta, but having
links to a down site, is not cool. (Sign me up for help if needed).</tt></li>
<li><tt>*now could be more geared for use as a universal tool. The
default contexts and files were quickly replaced with more standard
configs.</tt></li>
<li><tt>*now could be very helpful in tracking issues with links to
"Report a problem" or search the WIKI from the app.</tt><br>
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</ul>
<tt>I understand the tendency to love the CLI, but I honestly think
there a place for a GUI in Asterisk. How many of us still use the mysql
CLI? I can't expect my helpdesk guy to know emacs or vi just to add a
user.<br>
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Curiously,<br>
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jc<br>
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