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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As this is a thread off a topic I spun off another
thread...some thoughts...or a pooled database of numbers not listed..doesn't
even need to be telemarketers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>1. track the hit count.and last used..collecitvely..see if
a number is still being used...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>2. name against the company...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you
know it's a fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking
this was 407 111 1111. Right away, I knew it was a spammer/telemarketer
since it's not a valid number...and I was on the offence answering the
phone...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In fact, a possible update to the blacklist function in
asterisk is a database tracking of it's usage. is it a one of that hit me
once..never called back...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>and another issue is the charity type...what's blacklist to
you may not be to me, ie..clothing pickup donation charitys...they really annoy
me calling several times a week, but one, I don't block as they're good, their
caller id is accurate and they actually leave a message with a number offering
you to call back if you have something to pick up (granted it's a recording that
does that but at least it's not a hangup). Some may wish to block all
those... Political donation type numbers are another one that irk some but not
others.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=046234311-10052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>By putting names against the number and
"classification"...you could at least then choose to blacklist once the first
call comes in, based on accurate caller id info.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Steve
Totaro<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:26 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Asterisk
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Things that will make
your idea difficult.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Although telemarketers
are supposed to send their CallerID, many if not most, I see “Unkown”. I
believe this is illegal but I see it many times a
day.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I worked at a company
with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply changing outbound CallerID to
another number defeats your scripts. I could also change the actual DNIS
of these calls, so a telemarketer could easily defeat your mechanism and still
be legal.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I could also send any
arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which looks better to the callee than
“Unknown” but cannot be associated to a particular
telemarketer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Thanks,<BR>Steve
Totaro<BR>http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/
<BR>KB3OPB<BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ritesh Agrawal<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [asterisk-users] List of
telemarketers??</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks everyone for the responses,
encouragement and offers to help.<BR>I will get started on this shortly and
circle back with you guys.<BR>If someone has a starter list, it would help jump
start the efforts/motivation :-)
<BR><BR>Ritesh<BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 5/9/07, <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Noah Miller</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:noahisaacmiller@gmail.com">noahisaacmiller@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi Ritesh -<BR><BR>> Does anyone know if there is a
known list of telemarketers?<BR>> Something like <A
href="http://whocalled.us/">http://whocalled.us/</A> with an easier
access?<BR>><BR>> We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-)
<BR>> If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone
can<BR>> benefit from.<BR>><BR>> I just need some suggestions
on:<BR>> (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to
sanity <BR>> check)<BR>> (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access
the dbase.<BR><BR>Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a
blacklist for<BR>telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than
an RBL for <BR>spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a
non-US database.<BR>Here in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>, I've experienced great success
with the<BR><A href="http://www.donotcall.gov">www.donotcall.gov</A>
service. If you're in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> and haven't signed up <BR>for this
service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may
be<BR>non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to
block.<BR><BR><BR>-
Noah<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>--Bandwidth and
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