The guy was arrested because he was conciously allowing US citizens to gamble online, something illegal in the US at this point. He ran a business who's sole profit source came from this illegal activity. Spencer is an entirely different situation. He's not running a business in which he provides VoIP to places where it is illegal. He's running a business the develops software that enables VoIP... There's a big difference there. If someone takes the software and uses it in a place where VoIP is illegal, that does not make Spencer responsible. Think of it along the lines of BitTorrent software. The software isn't illegal - it has valid uses - but it _could_ be used for something illegal. All that means is that the user of the software has commited a crime; Not the developer.
<br><br>Alex<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU">
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
Dean Collins <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 8 September 2006
10:22 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Asterisk
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> FW: Peter Dicks Chairman
of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!!</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I'm sending this to the asterisk
list – consciously knowing it will piss some people off but this is the <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">most important business issue of the day</span></b>
for anyone doing business in or with a US company.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Oh and before anyone on this list thinks
of calling this OT – how about Mark Spencer being arrested while
travelling in a country like India or the Middle East that has banned VOIP services
(which is still illegal because they cant tax it of course).</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I don't know what you are going to
be able to do with this information but this has to be discussed as it affect
the future of international commerce when dealing with the USA.</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0.0001pt;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Best intentions,</span></font></p>
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Dean Collins <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 8 September 2006
10:15 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Peter Dicks Chairman of
Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!!</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">This is bullshit.<br>
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I don't know how to effectively express my outrage over this action by
the US
government.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;" lang="EN">Check out these links for
background info;</span></font></p>
<p><font color="#cccccc" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(204, 204, 204);" lang="EN"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/technology/08gamble.html?_r=1&oref=slogin" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.nytimes.com</a>
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<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/08/news/international/bc.leisure.sportingbet.reut/?postversion=2006090808" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">money.cnn.com</a>
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<a href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-09-07T160138Z_01_N07242747_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-LEISURE-SPORTINGBET-DICKS.XML" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
today.reuters.co.uk</a>
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<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8K02SM85.htm?sub=apn_euro_up&chan=gb" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.businessweek.com</a></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">So basically we have a UK citizen, operating a UK business <a href="http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246" title="http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
(sportingbetplc.com
board)</a> who the moment he steps foot into the USA is arrested, not for crimes he
committed but for crimes committted by US citizens.<br>
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Oh and arrested under ambiguous Louisiana
law, that defines all interstate gaming as illegal.<br>
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I cant wait for the chairman of the NY Times to be arrested on a visit to China because
chinese citizens were reading copies of the NY Times on the internet.<br>
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Oh and as for visiting 'unfriendly' countries, how about if Castro started
shooting american tourists he found in Cuba for 'crimes of treason' in
carrying US dollars in their wallets?<br>
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This is insane America.
When are you going to wake up and begin to be a good 'world citizen'?<br>
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You cant just arrest people for 'crimes against the state' that dont even occur
in your country........isn't that what terrorists do? Impose their will against
the world at large.<br>
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I keep hoping I will wake up and the insanity will end? it's like a bad dream.<br>
It's getting hard to tell who is the bad guys anymore.<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dean</span></font></p>
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