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class=790101613-14042006>Comsumer acceptance of VoIP has caused the TelCo's to
rethink their profitablility, but that so no secrect to those on this
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class=790101613-14042006>It would appear that the treat is real enough for
others, such as Google to start taking preventive
measures</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>VoIP as a technology is the way to go, especially with
convergence. However, as it has been stated before, with the Public Internet you
cannot control QoS or even connectivity. This solidifies that
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Wai
Wu<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:49 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Asterisk
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I would say what is going
to prevent content providers like google and yahoo becoming telcos. Now they
too would have their peer arrangement.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Will VoIP be Next?<BR><BR>Telco's that provide Internet
services to their customers are now<BR>trying to charge select companies for
large volumes of content that<BR>pass over their network to their paying
customers! What part of this<BR>"greed fest' makes any sense to you? Telco's
sell DSL telling<BR>customers how much faster it is, how much they can do with
Highspeed<BR>Internet connections and now they want to charge non-customers
for the<BR>right to see their paying customers. CONFUSED? Damn so am I.
Telco's<BR>pay nothing for Internet connections as they get their traffic
from<BR>what are called peering agreements. Say I have a bunch of
customers<BR>and you have a bunch of customers...Then it is in our best
interest to<BR>peer so our customers can communicate with each other. This is
done<BR>99% of the time at NO COST to company A or company B. Now
companies<BR>like Verizon are demanding companies like Google pay them stating
that<BR>bandwidth intensive content is being passed over their networks
and<BR>they should be compensated. Ok so you flip to the other side and
the<BR>Verizon DSL customer has been sold on the fact services like
Google,<BR>Yahoo and many many smaller just plain super Internet goodies are
now<BR>going to travel into their computers at highspeed. Why the
double<BR>standard? GREED. That is it just plain old fashion GREED. The past
few<BR>years have not been good for Telco's. Cable companies are able
to<BR>offer better service and are now entering the phone markets as
well.<BR>Hey call me stupid but can we see where this is going? From the How
Do<BR>I Get More Profit Department Mr. Telco is at it again. The customer
is<BR>paying for access to a river of sorts. That river is called the
Global<BR>Internet. The Telco decided to enter that market. The Telco decided
to<BR>agree to PEER and accept traffic from other Global Internet
providers.<BR>The Telco decided to spend millions telling customers BUY
OUR<BR>HIGHSPEED DSL service so they could access bandwidth intensive
content<BR>like music, TV, large files and more. Huge marketing plans are
in<BR>action daily. So what have these customers really bought?
Good<BR>question. Maybe it is time for a Telco customer to get an
Internet<BR>savvy lawyer or two and sue the hell out of these companies that
are<BR>trying to restrain competition, block free trade and maybe just
maybe<BR>even eliminate services their customers count on to run their
daily<BR>business.<BR><BR>To the TELCO I say "Folks pull your heads out of
your collective<BR>asses" or your going to fail at this worse then you have
failed at<BR>DSL. Stick with your core business and stop trying to profit off
the<BR>inventions of others. Most of all stop trying to restrain trade.
If<BR>you fail to hear the phone ring it is going to cost your
shareholders<BR>a huge pile of cash one day very soon.<BR><BR>PS: The Internet
is a place where new ideas come and go by the minute.<BR>If this sort of
stupid nonsense is allowed to start it will never end.<BR>What has become a
world without borders, the connected will fast<BR>become the disconnected. Mr.
Telco the Internet happened while all of<BR>you were asleep at the "switch" so
wipe that evil smile off your<BR>faces. To me Telcos are nothing more than
OED's ( One Eyed Droids
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