<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ben,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I assume from your posts that you are in an area serviced by a small independent phone company. We have this situation as well, and you might very well have to pay much higher rates than other areas. You might try contacting Long Distance carriers (we use Paetec) and find out if they can work a deal with the local provider and help you get it for cheaper. The savings on Long Distance can also make up the additional cost for the T1.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Tom</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 8, 2005, at 11:49 PM, Ben Brown wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <FONT face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Heck...our CO still had analog switches until about 10 years ago! PRI is not an option going with the local telco. Luckily, there are a couple of non-local telco's that can apparently service me for a more reasonable rate.</FONT><BR> <BR> Damon Estep wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE cite="mid07668904BA88BA4E9DA11CDE5B594CB29F0338@ns1.soho.soho-systems.com" type="cite"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"> </O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">500-600 is more typical these days depending on where you are, but insist on PRI unless the service central office can not provide it.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><FONT color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; color: windowtext;"> <HR tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> <A class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</A> [<A class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ben Brown<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:41 PM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">To:</SPAN></B> <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion</ST1:PERSONNAME><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 12 to 16 FXO to asterisk connection</SPAN></FONT><FONT color="black"><SPAN style="color: windowtext;"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;">Is this standard in the industry? My local telco in the <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">US</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION> wants $1050/month for T1 (not PRI!) I can buy 24 POTS lines for $840/month. Gotta love small towns!<BR> <BR> BEN<BR> <BR> Sean Cook wrote: <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <PRE wrap=""><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Not sure about where you are but 16 pots lines generally run about $25-$30 /<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">month = $480/month. For about $400/month I can get a PRI (23+1) and go<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">straight into a TE100.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Just a thought.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Sean<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <A href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">[<A href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] On Behalf Of Erick Perez<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:04 PM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">To: <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Damon Estep</ST1:PERSONNAME><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Cc: <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion</ST1:PERSONNAME><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 12 to 16 FXO to asterisk<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">connection<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">cant find a cisco one so far.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">So what i need is a voip gateway?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">i found the octtel sp1632 for about USD.1500<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><A href="http://www.octtel.com.tw/eng/product_1632_2.php">http://www.octtel.com.tw/eng/product_1632_2.php</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">so i configure the equipment to register with the asterisk? as sip? or<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">some other thing? it will only be used to make outgoing calls, the<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">config is like this<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">nortel (12 port pstn card)----->(device with<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">16fxo)----->asterisk----->voip_provider<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">no chance to use an e1/t1 on the nortel.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">On 9/8/05, <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Damon Estep</ST1:PERSONNAME> <A href="mailto:damon@suburbanbroadband.net"><damon@suburbanbroadband.net></A> wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"> <PRE wrap=""><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">How about a used cisco iad2400 with a 16fxo module? Check ebay - no t1<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">card required. Probably $1000<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"> <PRE wrap=""><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <A href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</A> [<A href="mailto:asterisk-users">mailto:asterisk-users</A>-<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><A href="mailto:bounces@lists.digium.com">bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] On Behalf Of Erick Perez<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:27 PM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">To: <A href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Solution for 12 to 16 FXO to asterisk<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <PRE wrap=""><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">connection<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"> <PRE wrap=""><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi, today a customer asked how to use asterisk with 12 to 16 FXO<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">ports. I can use a channel bank with 16 FXO ports and connect the<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">channel bank with a T1 cable to a T1 card in the Asterisk Server.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Asterisk will then send the calls to the Voip provider over the<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">internet.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">However a 16 fxo port channel bank is about USD 1500 + a t1 card USD<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">500 + a USD 1000 computer = 3 thousand us dollars + my installation<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">fees (life isn't free).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Sounds expensive for such a small install.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;">Suggestions?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <PRE><FONT color="black" face="Courier New" 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