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class=357333417-05052005>Folks!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=357333417-05052005>It is a shame that nearly 10% of all posts to this
Asterisk Users Mailing List are one way or other connected to either Broadvoice
being Down or Broadvoice being Up or somewhere in between those.
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class=357333417-05052005>And in the ensuing confusion, all sorts of new VOIP
providers are trying to pitch their wares. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=357333417-05052005>All the business discussion on this list is not
benefiting this forum as much as it should, considering the number os users who
have to skim through hundreds of emails everyday, to get what they want to see
here - Issues concerning Asterisk PBX and Asterisk PBX
alone.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=357333417-05052005>Can you guys be kind enough to move the Broadvoice and
the Counter-broadvoice discussion to the biz-list, in view of lack of a list
like <A
href="mailto:'broadvoice-problems@lists.digium.com'">'broadvoice-problems@lists.digium.com'</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=357333417-05052005>Thanks in advance.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=357333417-05052005>Seshu</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=357333417-05052005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael D
Schelin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Asterisk
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Asterisk-Users] Broadvoice "Issues"<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi Guys, give me a try. I'm Michael Schelin of ShellTel and we are a
business Voip service provider. I have very little down time and we work 100%
with Asterisk. Please call 626-814-2354 or email me <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:sales@shelltel.com">sales@shelltel.com</A>. I'm a little more
the the discounters but when you need help I'm there! No hold for hours and we
own our own network so we have wholesale services like origination and
termination.<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Rich Adamson wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=midChameleon.1115308020.adar0@vegas type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Someone in another thread suggested that BroadVoice reads this forum
-- I hope so. I am a prospective customer, only inasmuch as their
advertised rates are so attractive. But as a consultant it will be a
cold day in the Ether before I recommend them to a client of mine
until these "issues" are cleaned up.
It's difficult, very difficult, for a newcomer to this technology to
figure out who is a reliable provider and whether companies like
BroadVoice are a flash-in-the-pan, here today - gone tomorrow, take
your money and run, outfit or whether they are just having growing
pains.
The repeated outages are unacceptable. If they are planned then they
should have the professionalism to send every customer an e-mail
advising of the outage BEFORE the outage. They should also put a web
page up notifying customer of planned outages, loads on the proxies
(latencies) and other information a business who was dependent upon
their services would need.
Finally, to BroadVoice, I say, if you want my business then clean up
your act and do so promptly. Otherwise the VoIP community will just
dismiss you as another provider wannabe.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
Those of us that have been around the list (and BV) for awhile know
that one of the BV employees had a strong interest in making * work
with their service. He did so and does frequent this list. However,
he's a one-man support shop (with BV clearly stating there is no BV
support for *). So the * users use this list for support.
If you are going to act as any reasonable consultant or reseller,
it certainly is not in your client's best interest for you to recommend
BV when it is simply unsupported and you know it.
Until BV as a company steps up to the plate, it serves no useful
purpose to bitch at them. Their doing exactly what they said they
would do... nothing.
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