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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J Poz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 04, 2004 10:51
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Asterisk-Users] How
does Norvergence do it ?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Yes, I would like to see the contract.............<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Michael Miller
<mailing-lists@cedillas.com></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have a good friend who used to be a
sales rep for them. The entire sales pitch is based on making the customer
believe that they are lucky to have been offered the opportunity to beome a
Norvergence customer as they are extremely selective. If any technical question
where to come up, he was trained to let them know that they where not selected
to be part of the program and to move on quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I do have a copy of their contract if
anyone is interested is taking a look at it. It is an interesting piece of legal
work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J Poz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:45
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <u1:PersonName u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</u1:PersonName></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Asterisk-Users] How
does Norvergence do it ?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Wow, that was GREAT info... I'm in the NY tri-state area so I'm sure I
will run into them as competition. Thanks for sending that link - it's
unbelievable; also proves the power of such emailing lists where we can share
this type of information about unethical companies!<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Neil Grant
<Neil.Grant@fasthosts.co.uk></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Found this:<br>
<br>
http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89155.htm<br>
<br>
Many other nasty stories about them too.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Neil<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: willy@yponeinc.com [mailto:willy@yponeinc.com] <br>
Sent: 04 May 2004 12:51<br>
To: <u1:PersonName u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</u1:PersonName></st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?<br>
<br>
So a guy shows up at the the office, after making an<br>
appointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk<br>
'phone systems'.<br>
After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 and<br>
Frame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Well<br>
dressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimited<br>
local & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'.<br>
'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask some<br>
questions, like number porting, like provisioning of DID<br>
numbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over.<br>
That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up on<br>
the appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we are<br>
worthy of their cheap service. After I looked at their<br>
website, I can hear 'quack quack'.<br>
Cheers,<br>
WW <br>
<br>
Willy Wouters<br>
ypOne Publishing<br>
<br>
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