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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I guess I didn’t place that part of
my message in the correct context. Presence is very handy, and I would
like to see the functionality added to Asterisk. What I meant by my
comment you quoted below, is that if I could attach my Asterisk server to the
Skype network, I would not care if I had their presence services. That is
a part of the functionality I would be willing to do without if they opened
their protocol. It goes back to my original point: If they want to keep
part of their protocol closed, that is fine, but release the most basic part of
it: the voice communication.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jeremy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Dean
Collins [mailto:dean@collins.net.pr] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 07, 2004
2:42 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW:
pda skype</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>I'm going to leave most of what you said
alone, I understand you point and it's your point to make.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>However I will make a small comment about<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=1
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;font-style:italic'>“I
don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I
get a busy<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=1
face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;font-style:italic'>reorder
signal. No big deal”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>Presence based information is the biggest
‘seller’ in the IP PBX market at the moment, being able to tell
what/where a person is certainly driving a lot of sales through my door.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hall<br>
Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2004 3:29 AM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype</span></font><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>I don't have a PocketPC PDA, mine is Palm.
But regardless, I don't see<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>what all the "Hype" is with
"Skype." It is a closed protocol and highly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>platform-restricted product. Sure the
concept of a peer-to-peer phone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>network is interesting, but if not everyone
can connect to it, what is<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>the point? If they want to keep
certain features under their control so<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>that they can eventually charge for it,
then by all means do so. But if<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>they would release the basic protocol
specs, so that others can access<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>the network in general, they would see many
more users.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>I for one am not going to run yet another
soft phone and/or IM client on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>my system just to connect to yet another
phone network. A friend of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>mine and I tried it when it first came out,
and it worked about as well<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>as FWD, or IAXTel, or Firefly, or... You
get the point. Now if I could<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>attach my Asterisk server to it and be able
to make and receive simple<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>voice calls with other users, that would be
great. I don't need hotlist<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>functionality, if I dial their number and
they aren't on, I get a busy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>reorder signal. No big deal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>They definitely have a good idea, in the
fact that it works, doesn't<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>have too many problems with firewalls, and
is not server reliant. But<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>keeping it closed is preventing a lot of
people from joining them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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