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<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I believe the issues raised by this message are the same as mine, more on a
commercial sense than for self use, but mostly the same. I've seen posts
where real-life installations are mentioned, but not a reference to how Asterisk
is working on production (and productive) environments.</DIV>
<DIV>Any experiences would be very welcome I believe, not only on pure
technical, but wider, sense.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks Shoval for raising this issue, and to All for keeping this list
so alive.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>José L. Perez</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=shoval@softov.co.il href="mailto:shoval@softov.co.il">Shoval Tomer</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 02, 2003 16:36</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Asterisk-Users] a bit frightened, guys</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I started looking
into asterisk cause we're looking for a real-world
solution.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">(when I say we I
talk about a 50+ HQ and a 10+ branch office).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We currently use a
Panasonic analog PBX, with home-made IVR and PSTN
lines.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We'd like to deploy
most of Asterisk's capabilities through out our organization – to save on long
distance and international calls.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I've been playing
with asterisk for a week now, and I am charmed (if not madly in love) with
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Today I went on and
bragged to my boss about it and how we can implement it instead of buying
something like Cisco's call manager.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">He got excited too
and wants to have an estimate of hardware costs for a solution that'll work for
us.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Suddenly I was weak
at the knees…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have a couple of
questions for you guys.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; DIRECTION: ltr; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Has someone tried
this in a real world, production environment?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
</LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A start=2>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; DIRECTION: ltr; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What is the
Asterisk server hardware recommendation for managing approx. 75 extensions and
16 analog lines?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A start=3>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; DIRECTION: ltr; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What telephony
hardware do I need in order to get all these extensions and lines connected to
Asterisk<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A start=4>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; DIRECTION: ltr; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Do I need to
replace our lines (analog) with a PRI line?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A start=5>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; DIRECTION: ltr; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Can I use the
existing infrastructure (connecting the existing extensions to asterisk, for
instance)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A start=6>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; DIRECTION: ltr; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What is there to
be said for network bandwidth consumption for this size of a
deployment?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A start=7>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Do I need
dedicated bandwidth for it to work properly<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<OL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type=A start=8>
<LI class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Anything else I
might have left out…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">See, I'm not afraid
of hard work, and I already started working on solutions not embedded into the
Asterisk package (like broadening the web interface, having a directory
application that connects to our internal phone directory,
etc.).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am afraid that
since this is not a commercially available product, since there's no guaranty
it'll work I might find myself holding both ends of the short
stick.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">For instance, can I
get the hardware and return it after a while if it's not working?
Where?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
style="DIRECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This way, if it's a
no go, I'm not stuck with useless hardware that cost thousands of
dollars.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In short, can
Asterisk be deployed to a real production environment, like
ours?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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