[asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

[Joel Serrano]

Hi,

I wanted to add some comments to Sebastian's response:

1- When you have a lot of DIDs, you can't just "port" them over from
company1 to company2. Try to have 1M or so DIDs and ask if you can just
port them. No no, not that simple. There is a process that a lot of times
is not worth the cost/risk/etc.
2- What happens if company1 has very good pricing for DIDs, but
extremely high rates for placing outbound calls, and company2 has super
aggressive pricing for the destinations you use most, but sells DIDs very
expensive? Mix and match? :)
3- What do you do, when instead of having 1 outbound carrier, you have
several 50?

At the end I think you are mistakenly comparing apples to oranges, your DID
provider has nothing to do with your outbound carrier, can the DID provider
also give you outbound calling? Most likely, but that doesn't mean that the
best way to go is to route outbound calls via the carrier that is providing
you DIDs.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 4:34 PM Sebastian Nielsen <sebastian at sebbe.eu>
wrote:

> I reallt don’t understand why people simply use the same operator to
> terminate your calls, which also provide DIDs for you.
>
>
>
> Then you don’t need to touch this at all, your carrier will do all the
> STIR/SHAKEN handling for you, you are just a PBX customer.
>
> And then the operator then simply limits your account to only present your
> DID as outgoing number.
>
>
>
> Seems to be a unneccesary complicated solution just to have your numbers
> at company 1 and have your call termination at company 2.
>
> So fricking unneccessary.
>
>
>
> What I know there is requirements of number portability, so as long as
> company 2 can handle DIDs (ergo ”own” DIDs) you should be able to move your
> DIDs from company 1 to company 2 – then company 2 owns your DIDs.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Sebastian Nielsen
>
>
>
> *Från:* asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com <
> asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com> *För *Alexander Perkins
> *Skickat:* den 12 mars 2021 01:23
> *Till:* asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> *Ämne:* Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN
>
>
>
> Hi Jeff.  What exactly do you mean by the 'inbound piece'?  I've spent
> quite a lot of time with the folks at TILTX understanding the framework;
> but I am not exactly sure what you mean by the 'inbound piece.
>
>
>
> Greg/Doug, like many folks here, we use LCR.  So, the terminating carrier
> is not necessarily the one that issued us the telephone numbers.  So, they
> will not sign it or simply cannot sign it.  Remember that a very limited
> number of companies can actually sign the calls; the rest have to buy it
> from these 'Service Providers'.
>
>
>
> And there is another situation - the company you purchase your numbers
> from and the company you place your calls through may be different and both
> may not be able to sign your calls.  Again, a very limited number of
> service providers that can actually sign your calls.  So what do you do in
> that scenario?  You have to find a Service Provider that can:
>
>
>
> 1.  Verify you own that telephone number(s).
>
> 2.  Sign your calls.
>
> 3.  Provide you with the technical means to do so.
>
>
>
> So, that's that...  I hope this makes sense.
>
>
>
> Alex
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