[asterisk-users] Who is the "creative" mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

Bruce B bruceb444 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 25 19:57:35 CDT 2011


First of all, what the heck is this link you referenced:

 http://lists.digium.com/**pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-**April/247084.html<http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-April/247084.html>

??????

Secondly, an Asterisk 1.6.2.18 that I am running right now plays nicely with
"help" command. The 1.8 does do that. So, 1.6.2.18 has not been around for 3
years. Again, stop misleading and changing the subject. When you state 3
years ago that is absolutely false. In doesn't apply to any of the Asterisk
versions till 1.8xx

My post was very clear. Yes, it was sarcastic due to frustration but it was
very clear and I wanted to say that there is no need to do "core show help
sip" when you can simply do "help sip".

I still don't think your reply was called for. These trolls like I said help
you live through with your attitude. If you were my employee and talked like
this to anyone I would fire you right away.

I am asking you nicely to please stop making this about yourself or Digium.
Like I said, I like Asterisk. I love it. It works very good. Please listen
to the community feedback without getting so defensive. No one gains
anything from changes like this. I am sure Digium can afford one afternoon
meeting to decide what the commands naming convention should be for the next
20 years.


On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Paul Belanger <pabelanger at digium.com>wrote:

> On 11-09-25 02:23 PM, Bruce B wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> LOL...you are trying to change the subject. That's naive.
>>
>> You clearly know that I complained that there is no need for such drastic
>> changes and long commands. The fact that it's written in CHANGES file or
>> if
>> there was a commit for it doesn't make it any better. Stop with the flawed
>> reasoning.
>>
>> I am not going to complement your code or policies the whole time. Stop
>> wishing for that. I like Asterisk and I will raise a voice when I feel
>> uncomfortable with changes.
>>
>> All I am saying is that - Come up with a naming convention and for the
>> sake
>> of everyone stick to it. How hard could that be? Even with new features
>> you
>> can still stick to certain principles if you plan it ahead. If you don't
>> know how to do it, ask the community for input and people will help.
>>
>> -Bruce
>>
>>  You do realize this change happen almost 3 years go, aprox Nov. 2008.
> There was a discussion about it at Astricon, on -dev mailing list, plus a
> code review on reviewboard[1]. Implying it did not happen is incorrect.
>
> You might not have know about it because your first post from
> bruceb444 at gmail.com seems to be Apr. 2010[2]. Community feedback was
> provided for the change, since it was driven by the community.
>
> If you don't like the change and want it reverted, simply load
> res_clialiases.so and edit cli_aliases.conf.
>
> Voicing your opinions is not a problem, however starting them with 'I don't
> mean to be rude but...' is not the best way to start them.  If you want to
> help shape the future of Asterisk, I encourage you to join the discussion on
> the asterisk-dev mailing lists.
>
> Its open source software, everybody gets a say.  It doesn't mean it will
> get done however.
>
> [1] https://reviewboard.asterisk.**org/r/32/<https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/32/>
> [2] http://lists.digium.com/**pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-**
> April/247084.html<http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-April/247084.html>
>
>
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