[asterisk-users] Top Posting

[Tzafrir Cohen]

Hi Fred,

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 09:43:00PM -0500, Fred Posner wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 02:31 +0000, James Miller wrote:
> > I hate to disagree but I find it much, much easier to follow conversations when the newest reply is on top.  I find it too time consuming to scroll through a long message just to find out someone left a three word reply.
> > 
> > As I am on my blackberry more than I am at a pc, if I don't see the reply as soon as I open the message it gets deleted without being read.  Time is money and I don't have time to scroll through every message.
> > 
> > I will agree that sometimes it is helpful to make replies at the bottom and I will attempt to keep the peace by posting at the bottom when I can, but top posting is easier and more clean to read than having 100 lines of > and broken lines. 

If I were to answer James here, I would write here, and just remove
anything below this point (potentially remove even more, to leave only
relevant parts). Unless the content was important enough for me to
un-top-post it .

> > 
> > Warmest regards,
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry. Always on, Always Connected
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lesly Dorval <ladorval at yahoo.com>
> > Sender: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:14:54 
> > To: <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> > Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > 	<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting
> > 
> > Shaun Ruffell <sruffell <at> digium.com> writes:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Whatever your preferred style, the following post is at least worth 
> > > considering.
> > > 
> > > http://brooksreview.net/2011/01/interleaved-email/
> > > 
> > > My belief is that it would be nearly impossible for me to follow a high 
> > > volume list if top posting was the preferred style.  For example, the 
> > > following email from the LKML would need to be more verbose if all the 
> > > participants were top posting, because they would all have to set the 
> > > context for their comments.  Instead, you can follow the chain of 
> > > thought for each of the "threads" contained in the email.
> > > 
> > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1087665
> > > 
> > > Anyway, just something to consider,
> > > Shaun
> > I could never understand the strong objection regarding top-posting until Shaun
> > shared these examples - though I had been reading lists for more years than I
> > care to admit.  These examples clearly show how snipping and bottom posting
> > translate to susccint and clear contextual communication. From now I will
> > evangelize snipping and bottom posting.
> > 
> 
>

Did you have fun re-reading all this stuff?
 
> I cannot imagine considering scrolling to the end of an email time
> consuming. Very sad. If you find it too difficult on your blackberry to
> press the B key (to jump to the bottom of the message) then I am
> uncertain how you have enough time to even read this email.
> 
> I'm all for good arguments. That "time consuming" one is just lazy.
> 
> I personally find top posting annoying and only serving to an immediate
> conversation. Particularly useless if referencing the message later.

The point of bottom-posting" is not to simply pile everything at the
bottom. There are also signatures below (17 lines of original message
below this one). The point is to trim out irrelevant stuff, so it is
easier to read the context of what you wrote without having to switch to
a different message (which also takes typing one or two other keys. Even
on a BlackBerry). So if you like bottom-posting so much, don't just
quote the original message: leav only the relevant bits of it.

> 
> -- 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> ---fred
> http://qxork.com
> 
> 
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Please don't :-)

Cheers,

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