[asterisk-users] TCP port, VPN and resolving the cutting voice problem

[bilal ghayyad]

Dear Steve;

I am fully thanks for your advise and kindly help.

I am asking about the ability to use vyatte hardware DSL router because of the following reasons:

1) I am afraid to make Asterisk the gateway for the whole network and this might effect on the performance and might cause a big load, u do not think so?

2) If any problem happened regarding to the QoS rules or regarding to the firewall or any other thing and they decided to do hardware restart for the server (or the PC machine), then the Asterisk will be restarted and that will effect on the telephony service at the site? 

3) I am afraid if we applied the QoS and bandwidth divsion at Vyatte, and then we route the traffic to the DSL router (which will do the NAT to ISP), then all the QoS rules will be ignored (or become not effected)? What do u think?

Again, special thanks for the guide and special help.

Regards
Bilal
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> I wouldn't bother with their hardware.  You can run it
> on most servers
> providing the drivers for the hardware are supported.
> 
> Just install it on a box with two NICs and put it between
> the router and
> your LAN, both static IPs, simple
> 
> If I were you, I would find out  what kind of DSL
> modem you have, but if it
> is doing NAT, DHCP, and all of that,  you may be able
> to turn off everything
> except for the modem and use Vyatta for everything from
> NAT, DHCP, QoS,
> Squid, Firewall.
> 
> In this case, one NIC would have your public IP, I suspect
> you would get it
> via DHCP or worst case, from your ISP, the second NIC is
> for the LAN, you
> can add more NICs for various purposes as well.
> 
> I run Asterisk on Vyatta systems and it works great. 
> No NAT issues with
> remote phones, QoS, and whatever else your imagination can
> come up with.
> 
> I also install Webmin and NTOP.
> 
> Just be aware that as soon as you activate the firewall,
> everything is
> blocked, so if you are going to use it as a firewall, get
> as many rules in
> place as you can think of.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve T
> 
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:14 PM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Dear;
> >
> > I understood that Vyatta is the solution for the QoS,
> but I am not able to
> > know if I can use a Vyatta hardware router to be DSL
> router and I set my QoS
> > in it to resolve the voice problem. Is it possible?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> > Regards
> > Bilal
> >
> > ------------
> > > > Thanks all for ur participation and kindly
> advise.
> > > >
> > > > As I noticed that jitterbuffer could help if
> the ping
> > > does not have request time out but the voice is
> also cutting
> > > .. but in that case, I have to set the
> jitterbuffer at the
> > > IP Phones and Asterisk boxes.
> > > >
> > > > I have a polycom phone for example, and to
> set the
> > > jitterbuffer there are the following paramters:
> > > >
> > > > Payload Size
> > > > Jitter Buffer Minimum
> > > > Jitter Buffer Shrink
> > > > Jitter Buffer Maximum
> > > >
> > > > When it use the minimum, and when it use the
> Shrink
> > > and when it use the maximum?
> > > >
> > > > If to look at the asterisk (in the SIP or
> IAX files)
> > > then there are a paramters for the jitterbuffer
> also, but
> > > really I am not able to know when to use this and
> when to
> > > use this:
> > > >
> > > > jenable, jbforce, jbmaxsize,
> jbresyncthreashold,
> > > jbimpl, jblog
> > > >
> > > > How to use the jbresyncthreashold? In which
> case?
> > > >
> > > > Regarding to the QoS, which will be need in
> case
> > > having a packet loose, correct?
> > > >
> > > > I just need to ask about something:
> > > > What I will be able to do if my ISP did not
> setup the
> > > QoS at his side? What kind of settings I can do
> in my DSL
> > > router (in case of Cisco, or in case of Linksys
> that running
> > > linux firmware)?
> > > >
> > > > From the other side, if I used linux server
> to set the
> > > QoS, so do I have to let all the network elements
> to pass
> > > this linux server (so it will be the default
> gateway for
> > > other elements)?
> > > >
> > > > Appreciate the kindly help.
> > > > Regards
> > > > Bilal
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > If getting a second circuit is out of the
> question.
> > >
> > > 1.  Switch to SIP
> > > 2.  Install and Learn Vyatta for QoS (Squid
> may help
> > > you quite a bit
> > > as well) as your router (or whatever you
> prefer)  I
> > > use the paid
> > > versions of Vyatta but the free edition should
> be
> > > sufficient.
> > >
> > > I did the same setup over OpenVPN VSAT links in
> Iraq, 700ms
> > > ping
> > > times.  I used GSM and some tricks on the
> Vyatta box.
> > >
> > > Originally, before I deployed the above, it was a
> wild west
> > > situation
> > > like what you have now.  Going from G729 to
> GSM made a
> > > big improvement
> > > in conjunction with QoS.
> > >
> > > My theory on that is that G729 is already a very
> lossy
> > > codec, so any
> > > more loss, garbled audio.  GSM is less
> lossy.
> > >
> > > Switch from IAX to SIP was another huge
> improvement, and
> > > then finally
> > > putting Vyatta and QoS as my router made calls
> almost
> > > crystal clear.
> > >
> > > There was the obvious lag time but users get used
> to that
> > > and wait a
> > > second or two before speaking so they don't talk
> over each
> > > other and
> > > the quality was five by five, except for solar
> flares,
> > > sandstorms,
> > > rain.  Things beyond my control.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve T