[asterisk-users] FW: hi Dan

[Dan Journo]

Sorry for causing this war. It's just, if everyone sent private
messages:-

a) there would be no point of the mailing list
b) our mailboxes would fill up in minutes, leaving no space of our
business emails.

Dan


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From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C.
Savinovich
Sent: 13 November 2009 08:02
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] FW: hi Dan

How do you know a good soccer player when you see one? If you are a good
scout, just by his body language.  Just by seeing him how he walks and
positions himself on a field.  By the time he touches the ball, he is
either
eliminated from my list of prospects or he is marked as "good to be
considered".

How do you know a good technical person when you see one? Because
irrespective of wherever he/she is from, regardless of his language,
social
status, and even upbringing, he KNOWS WHAT GOOGLE IS. The desire to
investigate, research, and READ must be born with him the same day he is
born.

There is a saying that goes "you can't tech a man anything, you can only
help him find himself".  In this case, this man has been attentively
helped,
and his questions have been duly answered more than once in this forum.
He
has been told in no uncertain terms to SEARCH IN GOOGLE... That is the
answer, based in the fact that he will find plenty of solutions to HIS
particular question within 1 minute.  He doesn't listen.  And listening
is
not a cultural constrain (perhaps if we call him "little grasshopper"
will
he be more attentive?).

To me, he doesn't have it.  I have friends who ask me all the time to
teach
them programming and I ignore them.  Inside I know that they don't have
it
because a real programmer never asks another to teach him to program,
therefore I would save myself the time.  But maybe I am wrong, maybe
this
guy will learn from what we are trying to tell him... I hope.

CS


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Howes
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:51 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] FW: hi Dan


On 13 Nov 2009, at 16:02, Cary Fitch wrote:
> Sorry, I can't resist.

Evidently

> How do I join the Mail List Nazi Corp?  Do I have to be invited, or 
> can I just self appoint myself?  Asking neophyte questions are 
> objected to by some, top posting by those who blast others, etc.

You just joined.

> How about leaving member chastisement to the sponsor of the list?

I'd happily do so if it happened.

> Some people have no one within 250 miles of where they are to learn 
> from or learn better by working with code than reading inscrutable 
> examples from different versions, and other inanimate pages of 
> examples that have "wrong"
> variables, etc.

Well, most of the people on the list managed to do this without
harassing
people..

> Nearly everyone can be criticized for something, Asking "dumb"  
> questions,
> top posting, bottom posting and leaving 3 pages of "crap" to scroll 
> through, answering questions that were answered 5 posts down, because 
> they didn't review the newer messages before posting, and more.

Yes, and they shouldn't. Its called etiquette.

> Be charitable and kind.  Have a nice day.

I always am. Here, have a free hug, *hug* I find that helps when I'm
feeling
grumpy.

S

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