[asterisk-users] FW: hi Dan

[Alex Balashov]

I strongly concur with this realistic and very well-researched thesis.

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On Nov 13, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Steve Edwards <asterisk.org at sedwards.com>  
wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Cary Fitch wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I can't resist.
>
> Next time please try harder.
>
>> How do I join the Mail List Nazi Corp?
>
> And of course, lacking any sense of "history," let's blame it on the
> Nazis.
>
>> Asking neophyte questions are objected to by some, top posting by  
>> those
>> who blast others, etc.
>
> Not at all. If you had any sense of Pawan's "history" you may have  
> chosen
> sides differently:
>
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:34:18 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] Installing Asterisk
>
> Pawan states he is reading an Asterisk book and requests suggestions  
> on
> which OS he should use.
>
> He received helpful responses from Dan Journo, PATRICK KANGETHE, John
> Novack, and Hans Witvliet.
>
> 30 minutes later he posts a brilliant tome "Subjected" "installing"
> consisting of 2 words -- installing asterisk. He received less than
> helpful responses from Steve Howes, Alex Balashov, and Pascal Bruno.
>
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:07:30 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] deploying asterisk
>
> Pawan states he "had just finished the installation requirement of
> asterisk" and now feels competent to piss off 40 executives with his  
> first
> installation.
>
> He received helpful responses from Danny Nicholas, Darrick Hartman,  
> Steve
> Edwards (me), and Alex Balashov.
>
> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:37:42 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] hardware requirements for asterisk
>
> Pawan request help with hardware requirements. Curiously, he implies  
> that
> he can read and has "just finished my chapters of asterisk."
>
> He receives helpful responses from Alex Balashov and Hans Witvliet.
>
> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:33:09 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] asterisk,libpri,zaptel
>
> Pawan requests help installing Asterisk.
>
> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:08:02 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] problem while compiling asterisk tar file
>
> Pawan requests help in compiling gtk.
>
> He receives helpful responses from Jimmy Godbout, Danny Nicholas,  
> Steve
> Howes, Jason Parker.
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:29:57 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] help in installing asterisk
>
> Pawan requests help in compiling Asterisk.
>
> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:20:46 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] how to check version of asterisk
>
> Pawan requests help to determine the version of Asterisk he installed.
>
> He receives helpful responses from Alex Balashov, Tzafrir Cohen, and  
> C.
> Savinovich.
>
> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:11:47 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] how to configure softphones in asterisk
>
> Pawan requests help configuring a softphone. He does not indicate  
> that he
> has done any research, tried anything or received any error messages.
>
> He receives helpful responses from Matt Riddell and Danny Nicholas. He
> receives less that helpful responses from Alex Balashov, Steve  
> Howes, and
> C. Savinovich in response to emailing them privately.
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:16:50 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] how to configure softphones in asterisk
>
> Pawan solicits help configuring a softphone. He does not indicate  
> that he
> has done any research, tried anything or received any error messages.
>
> He receives helpful responses from Alex Balashov and Barry L. Kline.
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:31:35 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] soft phone (X-lite) not able to register
> with asterisk
>
> Pawan solicits help configuring a softphone. 20 minutes later he  
> posts the
> same request.
>
> He receives a helpful response from ABBAS SHAKEEL.
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:47:41 +0000
> Subject: [asterisk-users] CALLER-ID, MUSIC ON HOLD, HOLD, QUEUE
>
> Pawan indicates he has succeeded in placing a call between 2  
> extensions
> and now wants someone to complete is dialplan.
>
> He receives a helpful response from Leif Neland and less than helpful
> responses from Steve Howes and Steve Edwards. He also invites a  
> flame-fest
> by soliciting help privately from several list members.
>
> All this in the last 2 weeks.
>
>> Some people have no one within 250 miles of where they are to learn  
>> from
>> or learn better by working with code than reading inscrutable  
>> examples
>> from different versions, and other inanimate pages of examples that  
>> have
>> "wrong" variables, etc.
>
> Distance is no defense to ignorance. If you have the ability to  
> email, you
> have access to all the resources you need -- if given a gentle nudge  
> or 2.
>
> Pawan has demonstrated a lack of social and technical skills that a
> "clue-by-4" can't cure.
>
> Time to move on...
>
> -- 
> Thanks in advance,
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