[asterisk-users] FW: hi Dan

[Steve Edwards]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Cary Fitch wrote:

> Sorry, I can't resist.

Next time please try harder.

> How do I join the Mail List Nazi Corp?

And of course, lacking any sense of "history," let's blame it on the 
Nazis.

> Asking neophyte questions are objected to by some, top posting by those 
> who blast others, etc.

Not at all. If you had any sense of Pawan's "history" you may have chosen 
sides differently:

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:34:18 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] Installing Asterisk

Pawan states he is reading an Asterisk book and requests suggestions on 
which OS he should use.

He received helpful responses from Dan Journo, PATRICK KANGETHE, John 
Novack, and Hans Witvliet.

30 minutes later he posts a brilliant tome "Subjected" "installing" 
consisting of 2 words -- installing asterisk. He received less than 
helpful responses from Steve Howes, Alex Balashov, and Pascal Bruno.

Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:07:30 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] deploying asterisk

Pawan states he "had just finished the installation requirement of 
asterisk" and now feels competent to piss off 40 executives with his first 
installation.

He received helpful responses from Danny Nicholas, Darrick Hartman, Steve 
Edwards (me), and Alex Balashov.

Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:37:42 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] hardware requirements for asterisk

Pawan request help with hardware requirements. Curiously, he implies that 
he can read and has "just finished my chapters of asterisk."

He receives helpful responses from Alex Balashov and Hans Witvliet.

Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:33:09 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] asterisk,libpri,zaptel

Pawan requests help installing Asterisk.

Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:08:02 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] problem while compiling asterisk tar file

Pawan requests help in compiling gtk.

He receives helpful responses from Jimmy Godbout, Danny Nicholas, Steve 
Howes, Jason Parker.

Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:29:57 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] help in installing asterisk

Pawan requests help in compiling Asterisk.

Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:20:46 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] how to check version of asterisk

Pawan requests help to determine the version of Asterisk he installed.

He receives helpful responses from Alex Balashov, Tzafrir Cohen, and C. 
Savinovich.

Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:11:47 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] how to configure softphones in asterisk

Pawan requests help configuring a softphone. He does not indicate that he 
has done any research, tried anything or received any error messages.

He receives helpful responses from Matt Riddell and Danny Nicholas. He 
receives less that helpful responses from Alex Balashov, Steve Howes, and 
C. Savinovich in response to emailing them privately.

Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:16:50 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] how to configure softphones in asterisk

Pawan solicits help configuring a softphone. He does not indicate that he 
has done any research, tried anything or received any error messages.

He receives helpful responses from Alex Balashov and Barry L. Kline.

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:31:35 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] soft phone (X-lite) not able to register
with asterisk

Pawan solicits help configuring a softphone. 20 minutes later he posts the 
same request.

He receives a helpful response from ABBAS SHAKEEL.

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:47:41 +0000
Subject: [asterisk-users] CALLER-ID, MUSIC ON HOLD, HOLD, QUEUE

Pawan indicates he has succeeded in placing a call between 2 extensions 
and now wants someone to complete is dialplan.

He receives a helpful response from Leif Neland and less than helpful 
responses from Steve Howes and Steve Edwards. He also invites a flame-fest 
by soliciting help privately from several list members.

All this in the last 2 weeks.

> Some people have no one within 250 miles of where they are to learn from 
> or learn better by working with code than reading inscrutable examples 
> from different versions, and other inanimate pages of examples that have 
> "wrong" variables, etc.

Distance is no defense to ignorance. If you have the ability to email, you 
have access to all the resources you need -- if given a gentle nudge or 2.

Pawan has demonstrated a lack of social and technical skills that a 
"clue-by-4" can't cure.

Time to move on...

-- 
Thanks in advance,
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