[asterisk-users] Area code 757 "Car warranty" calls

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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Jon Pounder <jonp at inline.net> wrote:
> Cary Fitch wrote:
>
> two weeks ago when I said don't ever permit them to have phone service
> again I was labeled a radical.
>
> at&t and the other telcos are just dropping the ball here as I said
> before - with ip address spoofing we all have rules to prevent packets
> from entering our network which should have originated within it. if the
> telcos just did the same we would all be happier - and screw the
> "legitimate" use of faking ani, caller id or whatever level its
> happening at. Personally I would prefer to ignore the calls from my bank
> that are originating in asia since they are just trying to sell me
> something I don't want anyway.

C'Mon, recip comps are peanuts? Why would they? They make money off it
and yes BECAUSE it's from another carrier.

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> Rogers in Canada just lost a class action suit for failing to provide
> the internet service they said they would in their terms of service,
> (poor bandwidth, poor uptime etc), and this set a good precedent. I
> think everyone who pays to have caller id on a line should get together
> and file a class action suit - if the telcos can not guarantee its
> accurate, they are not providing the service contracted for, so either

I don't see where this is the same. If Rogers would have lost for
allowing spoofed IP address to arrive at a customers computer then you
are comparing apples to apples. But if one pays for a feature that is
meant to just be what is provided, how exactly you going to sue them?

> it should be free since its of no value, or they should fix it by
> whatever means necessary to guarantee accuracy. That is a gravy train
> service and if they were no longer permitted to charge for it, it would
> soon get the attention to a fix it deserves.
>
> Around here we get the calls from exchange 000 - tell me that takes more
> than a second of thought to be able to filter out....
>
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>> Three or four area codes, all spoofed ANI.
>> We absorb their war dialing for about 2,000,000 unassigned cell numbers with
>> two Asterisk server which do nothing else.
>>
>> Since they are war dialing cell phone numbers, they obviously don't care
>> about any rules.  Trying to get any info from the people who respond to "1
>> for more information" is fruitless.  They will give no information about the
>> company and they or the person at the next desk claims to be a "supervisor"
>> who will relay our "concerns" to the management.
>>
>> We eliminated the Special Information Tones, as time wasters.  We get 10
>> calls or so per second. Hard to say... console is a blur on verbose 7.  We
>> do put them in a black list when we get a call, but that is manual process
>> and unless we get several calls on our own numbers... that slides.  They
>> change ANI often anyway.  (Another reason we know they are pirates)
>>
>> Our attorney says there is a law pending to make it illegal to "spoof an ANI
>> to defraud".  It wouldn't affect "legitimate ANI manipulations" such as
>> making all calls appear to come from a main corp. number, etc. It would make
>> illegal setting an ANI to some attorney's office or some insurance company
>> to defraud the callee.  I don't know if it would make use of bogus numbers
>> to hide identity illegal.
>>
>> We had a long chat with an AT&T traffic admin, this week, about our short
>> hold times, which turned into a discussion of warranty calls.  They are
>> aware of the problem, but say they can't do anything, because the calls come
>> from other carriers.
>>
>> We don't do CDR in asterisk.  We do in a Lucent switch ahead of Asterisk.
>> The Lucent switch produced 540 megs of "warranty" CDR files in February.
>>
>> In short, someone needs to find those people and explain things to them
>> clearly and with extreme prejudice.
>>
>> /rant off
>> YMMV
>> Cary
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:11 PM
>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> Subject: [asterisk-users] Area code 757 "Car warranty" calls
>>
>>
>> 757 area code right? They have been hitting my cell twice a day. I
>> always press one and go through the process telling them I have a 1959
>> Edsel dump truck that needs alot of work and how perfect this is going
>> to work for me... Either that or something else to waste their time.
>>
>> Their ANI info is spoofed too.
>>
>> Cary Fitch wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think the telemarketers care about them.  Right now we get
>>>
>> thousands
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>>> of "Car warranty" phone calls everyday, now for months, and given that
>>>
>> they
>>
>>> are illegally war dialing cell phone numbers, I don't think they listen
>>>
>> for
>>
>>> the Special Information Tones.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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