[asterisk-users] Area code 757 "Car warranty" calls

[Jon Pounder]

Cary Fitch wrote:

two weeks ago when I said don't ever permit them to have phone service 
again I was labeled a radical.

at&t and the other telcos are just dropping the ball here as I said 
before - with ip address spoofing we all have rules to prevent packets 
from entering our network which should have originated within it. if the 
telcos just did the same we would all be happier - and screw the 
"legitimate" use of faking ani, caller id or whatever level its 
happening at. Personally I would prefer to ignore the calls from my bank 
that are originating in asia since they are just trying to sell me 
something I don't want anyway.


Rogers in Canada just lost a class action suit for failing to provide 
the internet service they said they would in their terms of service, 
(poor bandwidth, poor uptime etc), and this set a good precedent. I 
think everyone who pays to have caller id on a line should get together 
and file a class action suit - if the telcos can not guarantee its 
accurate, they are not providing the service contracted for, so either 
it should be free since its of no value, or they should fix it by 
whatever means necessary to guarantee accuracy. That is a gravy train 
service and if they were no longer permitted to charge for it, it would 
soon get the attention to a fix it deserves.

Around here we get the calls from exchange 000 - tell me that takes more 
than a second of thought to be able to filter out....







> Three or four area codes, all spoofed ANI.
> We absorb their war dialing for about 2,000,000 unassigned cell numbers with
> two Asterisk server which do nothing else.  
>
> Since they are war dialing cell phone numbers, they obviously don't care
> about any rules.  Trying to get any info from the people who respond to "1
> for more information" is fruitless.  They will give no information about the
> company and they or the person at the next desk claims to be a "supervisor"
> who will relay our "concerns" to the management.
>
> We eliminated the Special Information Tones, as time wasters.  We get 10
> calls or so per second. Hard to say... console is a blur on verbose 7.  We
> do put them in a black list when we get a call, but that is manual process
> and unless we get several calls on our own numbers... that slides.  They
> change ANI often anyway.  (Another reason we know they are pirates)
>
> Our attorney says there is a law pending to make it illegal to "spoof an ANI
> to defraud".  It wouldn't affect "legitimate ANI manipulations" such as
> making all calls appear to come from a main corp. number, etc. It would make
> illegal setting an ANI to some attorney's office or some insurance company
> to defraud the callee.  I don't know if it would make use of bogus numbers
> to hide identity illegal.
>
> We had a long chat with an AT&T traffic admin, this week, about our short
> hold times, which turned into a discussion of warranty calls.  They are
> aware of the problem, but say they can't do anything, because the calls come
> from other carriers.
>
> We don't do CDR in asterisk.  We do in a Lucent switch ahead of Asterisk.
> The Lucent switch produced 540 megs of "warranty" CDR files in February.
>
> In short, someone needs to find those people and explain things to them
> clearly and with extreme prejudice.
>
> /rant off
> YMMV
> Cary
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:11 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: [asterisk-users] Area code 757 "Car warranty" calls
>
>
> 757 area code right? They have been hitting my cell twice a day. I 
> always press one and go through the process telling them I have a 1959 
> Edsel dump truck that needs alot of work and how perfect this is going 
> to work for me... Either that or something else to waste their time.
>
> Their ANI info is spoofed too.
>
> Cary Fitch wrote:
>   
>> I don't think the telemarketers care about them.  Right now we get
>>     
> thousands
>   
>> of "Car warranty" phone calls everyday, now for months, and given that
>>     
> they
>   
>> are illegally war dialing cell phone numbers, I don't think they listen
>>     
> for
>   
>> the Special Information Tones.
>>
>>   
>>     
>
>
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