[asterisk-users] [VOIP-Users-Conference] Potential subject for Friday - Does the Asterisk community need a 3rd party commercial software ecosystem?

Wed Apr 9 12:02:21 CDT 2008

Zoa,
Private ping about SF app exchange.

Are you interested in coming on to the call to discuss with other
potential developers how this registration works and how you can bind a
license to a particular server?

I'll also reach out to Gerd at Lumenvox to see if he can come on to
discuss as well.

Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean at cognation.net
+1-212-203-4357 Ph
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Zoa
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 12:39 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Cc: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com;
VOIP-Users-Conference at googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] [VOIP-Users-Conference] Potential
subject for Friday -
> Does the Asterisk community need a 3rd party commercial software
ecosystem?
> 
> 
> You need to talk about this with digium sales, i suggest you give  Jim
> Webster a call.
> Without going into details, other license agreements are possible.
> (Several companies including mine can distribute software as a module
> similar to how g729 is being sold - we do that for our t.30/t.38 fax
> modules, lumenvox does it for voice recognition,... ).
> 
> OT, where can i find the best info on this salesforce API ? Do you see
> any possibilities to integrate our zoiper softphone with salesforce ?
> (contact me off list for that)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Zoa
> 
> Dean Collins wrote:
> > Hi BJ,
> > Further explanation about the 3rd party ecosystem question this
morning
> >
> > Cory Andrews from VoIP supply was on the Voip-Users conference call
last
> > week.
> >
> > I asked the question - how much of VoIP Supply revenue is product
versus
> > applications - he said we don't sell any services such as ITSP
hosted
> > Asterisk so I replied that wasn't what I was thinking of and gave
the
> > example of Snap Dialer which is a low cost (I think I paid $20 for
it)
> > application which allows me to dial names from outlook.
> >
> > I then talked about some of the consulting I did for Salesforce.com
and
> > how they have built an entire ecosystem of third party applications
all
> > built by other people but utilizing the documented API's and
application
> > security etc.
> >
> > My comments were that although Asterisk should always remain a free
open
> > source application that developers need to eat and pay rent as well.
> >
> > If there was some common marketplace that developers could sell
small -
> > low cost third party applications to the Asterisk community that
Digium
> > had some type of overview/management control over who listed etc
that
> > this would deliver a stream of revenue that would encourage further
> > application development.
> >
> > The question I then posed to the group was if anyone knew how Digium
> > managed the sale and licensing of the G729 codes.
> >
> > And if this was an open published standard that it could be used as
the
> > basis for the Asterisk ecosystem license model.
> >
> > Now I know it's not perfect and can be hacked but everything can be
> > hacked. The idea is to build apps cheap enough that it's not worth
the
> > effort of hacking.
> >
> > I know there were discussions in Mexuar about how we could sell
(read
> > license) a single channel of the Mexuar Corraleta application rather
> > than the entire server license for $2000.
> >
> > Earlier this week I sent an original email to Digium and told Kevin
was
> > responsible for the G729 licenses so I was hoping that this Friday
we
> > could get Kevin and possibly the developers of Snap Dialer to talk
about
> > their current license models and how they implemented payment
systems
> > and also maybe the developer of FOP to discuss if this was available
to
> > him and he was able to sell a 100 licenses or something like that a
> > month would this provide an income stream to support further
development
> > etc.
> >
> > Does this make sense?
> > Does anyone have any comments or would you like to be involved with
> > Fridays call?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dean Collins
> > Cognation Pty Ltd
> > dean at cognation.net
> > +1-212-203-4357 Ph
> > +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dean Collins
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 7:53 AM
> >> To: 'VOIP-Users-Conference at googlegroups.com'
> >> Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion';
Ast-biz
> >>
> > (asterisk-
> >
> >> biz at lists.digium.com)
> >> Subject: RE: [VOIP-Users-Conference] Subject or Guest for Friday?
> >>
> >> We can talk about the third party application idea Cory and I
> >>
> > discussed last week -
> >
> >> sorry still haven't posted to the list yet as I've had a client in
> >>
> > town for the last few day
> >
> >> but should be able to do this today.
> >> If Fop, Snap Dialer, Mexuar and or any other third party developer
who
> >>
> > has written
> >
> >> commercial asterisk applications (preferably small low value eg $20
> >>
> > etc) is interested
> >
> >> in jumping on a call with me this Friday I can put together a
series
> >>
> > of questions to run
> >
> >> the call with.
> >> Maybe we can get Kevin from Digium to explain on the call how the
g729
> >>
> > license
> >
> >> registration process works and turn the call into a working
> >>
> > discussion.
> >
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Dean Collins
> >> Cognation Pty Ltd
> >> dean at cognation.net
> >> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
> >> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: VOIP-Users-Conference at googlegroups.com [mailto:VOIP-Users-
> >>> Conference at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of randulo
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 7:27 AM
> >>> To: VOIP Users Conference
> >>> Subject: [VOIP-Users-Conference] Subject or Guest for Friday?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have a guest or subject up their sleeve for this week?
I
> >>> have neither and I'm getting ready to move house so I don't have a
> >>>
> > lot
> >
> >>> of time to pursue. Any chance of getting a phone mfr or service
> >>> provider on? Anyone out there want to take a crack at this?
Present
> >>> your product or service or open source contributions.
> >>>
> >>> Incidentally, TringMe apparently has an API available and are
making
> >>> it very easy to build AIR and Flash (or Flex) apps. This sounds
very
> >>> interesting for creating branded clients of various kinds. If
you're
> >>>
> > a
> >
> >>> programmer in that world, I'd check it out. AIR looks to me like
it
> >>> has legs because of its cross-platform nature. I don't know how it
> >>> works with linux or FreeBSD if at all. Does anyone here know?
> >>>
> >>> If no ideas are forthcoming, we can talk about my personal (VoIP)
> >>> issues: we're moving and will have two offices, as now. The
> >>>
> > difference
> >
> >>> is, we can not leave the power on at the old office, so we'll be
> >>>
> > using
> >
> >>> a combination of hosted pbx and asterisk, probably with the AA50
at
> >>> our new home.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions on any of this :)
> >>>
> >>> /r
> >>>
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> >>
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