[asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair

[Jon Pounder]

Quoting Stephen Bosch <posting at vodacomm.ca>:

> C F wrote:
>> Stephen i disagree. growing up in new work city i can say its quite
>> easy to get away with it in the city. where i live now in new jersey
>> (population of around 60000) i wouldnt be able to pull that off.
>
> The world is a big place, and I suppose there's room for all kinds. In
> these parts, the vigilance is pretty high. The pillars are padlocked
> now; they didn't use to be, and the COs are locked down like Fort Knox.
>
> Anyway, I know enough more than one person who has landed in the clink
> for treating the telco like a personal lab.

what exactly was the charge ?

- trespass - no its public land for the most part this stuff is on so  
that doesn't apply
- vandalism/mischief - if no other customer was impacted I don't see  
how this charge would stick since there is no measurable damages.
- theft of service ? Going rate for dry copper is under $20/month/pr  
so to get up into the 5-10k level that might justify a higher level  
theft charge with jail time that would take some time to add up.  
Stealing cable TV/satellite probably works out to about 3x the monthly  
rate of dry copper and I have never heard of anyone being told  
anything more than disconnect it when they get caught.

I am not trying at all to justify the moral aspect of theft, I am just  
making a point that I have never heard of anyone even getting in  
trouble, let alone jail.

The other issue is what crime would be involved in assisting the telco  
to deliver a better level of service by doing work yourself ?

For example I often do as much work on their side of the demarc as  
possible when I have an order pending, then I know its done the way I  
would have wanted it. I have never got anything other than a thank you  
when the installer shows up and I just tell them where to make the  
final connection.

Here is another what if - we had an adsl service in Mississauga at one  
point that would never quite work properly, finally got the answer -  
the line has a bridge tap on it somewhere but we won't remove it. WTF  
? they contract to supply a service, now have an explanation why its  
substandard yet won't fix it ? The point became moot as we cancelled  
the service eventually, but say I had stuck my tone generator on it,  
and walked back down the road to the CO and poked around till I found  
the bridge tap and removed it.

What would they charge me with ? I'm only helping them fulfil a  
contractural obligation they don't seem to want to meet. The way it  
ended was they preferred to lose the account entirely rather than fix  
a problem they knew about.



The other issue that hasn't even been touched in this thread is how  
easy it is to just tap someone's line when everything is so exposed  
like this. The tap might get found, but if it was a line powered radio  
transmitter, chances of tracing back to the installer are minimal  
unless someone saw it get installed.








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Jon Pounder

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