[asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair

[C F]

Stephen i disagree. growing up in new work city i can say its quite
easy to get away with it in the city. where i live now in new jersey
(population of around 60000) i wouldnt be able to pull that off.

On 5/12/07, Stephen Bosch <posting at vodacomm.ca> wrote:
> Jon Pounder wrote:
> >> On 5/11/07, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 11 May 2007, C F said something to this effect:
> >>>
> >>>> Not according to Verizon (in my area anyhow), We tried it and it
> >>> didn't
> >>>> work. The verizon technician insisted it wasn't real PTP copper and
> >>>> therefore anything but analog voice might/should not work.
> >>>    What is "PTP copper"?  Unless it's an issue of gauge.  But as far as
> >>> I
> >>> know, it's not.  All the standard copper used for POTS can be used for a
> >>> T1 from a physical point of view, other aspects of conditioning/load
> >>> coils/etc/etc not withstanding.
> >> You are right, but that was not what I meant, in order for one to be
> >> able to provision their own T1 over a pair of copper, the line has to
> >> allow all traffic over all frequencies pass thru it. Which these lines
> >> do not, since they are simply not just one long copper pair simply
> >> cross connected.
> >
> > that's what "dry copper" is supposed to be, just a cross connect between 2
> > pairs out of the CO. ie not even battery, line test equipment, or anything
> > else hanging off it at the CO. any restriction should be purely a function
> > of the inductance/capacitance of the wire and the connections and nothing
> > else - anything else and you didn't get "dry copper" in the first place.
> >
> >
> > just out of curiousity - anyone ever hijack pairs and get away with it ?
> > (do your own cross connects on the street and utilize some crossconnect
> > all within one branch of F1 cable out of the CO ?)
> >
> > I've been tempted in the past, and know that at least around here I would
> > probably get away with it for quite some time before anyone actually cared
> > enough to investigate.
>
> Jon:
>
> Is Thorold rural?
>
> You wouldn't get away with this for ten minutes in an urban CO. I don't
> fancy spending the night in jail.
>
> -Stephen-
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